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All legitimate concerns, but presumably delivery trucks / lorries are guilty of all of those right now? I would be unhappy if drone delivery made things worse,

All legitimate concerns, but presumably delivery trucks / lorries are guilty of all of those right now? I would be unhappy if drone delivery made things worse, but there's also the possibility it could make them better (I'd rather be hit by a drone than a truck, for example).

burkaman 5y ago
Yes, but I'm thinking about what happens if a single UPS truck delivering 500 packages is replaced with 500 individual drone trips. One drone is probably better than one truck, but that's not the right tradeoff to consider.
mattmanser 5y ago
The laws around noise pollution are surprisingly pathetic here in the UK, I imagine almost all countries are too. It's perfectly legal to deconstruct scaffolding, with power tools and chucking metal poles in the back of the van at 8am on a Sunday morning for example. Right next to multiple residential block of flats with hundreds of residents. And the number one issue if you poll residents of almost any large town is usually noise issues. If you want to see one of the big disconnects between government and the people, it's a big one. Saying it's already an issue that's under legislated doesn't mean we should allow it to get worse.
- jfk13 5y ago
  That sounds like a failure on the part of whatever authority licensed the scaffolding work. Picking one from a quick search: Greenwich, for example, says that "Noisy work is prohibited on Sundays and bank holidays", and explicitly mentions "Erecting and dismantling of scaffolding" in its examples of "noisy work". (https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/info/200205/pollution_and_noise/654/noise_from_building_works https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/info/200205/pollution_and_...) Presumably other authorities may have different rules, and they may or may not be effectively enforced. But in principle, at least, it's not a free-for-all.
- nsonha 5y ago
  My neighbor mows the lawn really early every Sunday. I don't think I can do anything about it.
- patall 5y ago
  In Germany, they are not that pathetic. You can theoretically be fined upto 50.000€ for mowing on Sundays. The two days before Easter, even dancing is forbidden in many federal states.
JoshTko 5y ago
Delivery trucks aren't flying over back yards.
gambler 5y ago
As a reminder, 6 questions about technology outlined by Neil Postman: What is the problem to which this technology is a solution for? Whose problem is it? What new problems might be created by solving the original problem? Which people and what institutions will be most seriously harmed by this new technology? What sort of people and institutions gain special economic and political power from this new technology? What changes in language are being forced by these new technologies?

burkaman 5y ago

Yes, but I'm thinking about what happens if a single UPS truck delivering 500 packages is replaced with 500 individual drone trips. One drone is probably better than one truck, but that's not the right tradeoff to consider.

mattmanser 5y ago

The laws around noise pollution are surprisingly pathetic here in the UK, I imagine almost all countries are too. It's perfectly legal to deconstruct scaffolding, with power tools and chucking metal poles in the back of the van at 8am on a Sunday morning for example. Right next to multiple residential block of flats with hundreds of residents. And the number one issue if you poll residents of almost any large town is usually noise issues. If you want to see one of the big disconnects between government and the people, it's a big one. Saying it's already an issue that's under legislated doesn't mean we should allow it to get worse.

jfk13 5y ago
That sounds like a failure on the part of whatever authority licensed the scaffolding work. Picking one from a quick search: Greenwich, for example, says that "Noisy work is prohibited on Sundays and bank holidays", and explicitly mentions "Erecting and dismantling of scaffolding" in its examples of "noisy work". (https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/info/200205/pollution_and_noise/654/noise_from_building_works https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/info/200205/pollution_and_...) Presumably other authorities may have different rules, and they may or may not be effectively enforced. But in principle, at least, it's not a free-for-all.
nsonha 5y ago
My neighbor mows the lawn really early every Sunday. I don't think I can do anything about it.
patall 5y ago
In Germany, they are not that pathetic. You can theoretically be fined upto 50.000€ for mowing on Sundays. The two days before Easter, even dancing is forbidden in many federal states.

JoshTko 5y ago

Delivery trucks aren't flying over back yards.

gambler 5y ago

As a reminder, 6 questions about technology outlined by Neil Postman: What is the problem to which this technology is a solution for? Whose problem is it? What new problems might be created by solving the original problem? Which people and what institutions will be most seriously harmed by this new technology? What sort of people and institutions gain special economic and political power from this new technology? What changes in language are being forced by these new technologies?