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Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? Piracy is result of unfair pr
by anthropodie 5y ago
Suppose SciHub looses cases in multiple countries and has to shutdown. What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent?
Piracy is result of unfair prices. Music used to be pirated all the time but then Spotify came along with subscription based services. I don't know anyone who still pirates music. Maybe people with IP and copyright claims should learn from Music industry.
- jhgb 5y ago> What prevents someone from putting entire data as torrent? What do you mean by that? It's already a bunch of torrents on the official SciHub page.
- yashwastaken 5y agoBut pirating music is different from streaming it on some application. Like you don't own the music file you're just streaming it from some servers(in case of downloading you still need the app and can't share it to some other device).
- martin_a 5y agoI don't think that matters. Everybody had a bunch (or thousands) of MP3s because mobile phones weren't a thing, fast mobile connections weren't a thing and there was simply no infrastructure to have something like Spotify. If we'd have Spotify with everything in 2003, we would not swap hard drives in school breaks.
- jazzyjackson 5y agoI was a subscriber to “Yahoo music unlimited” in 2005 and transferred my DRM’d WMA files to a zen micro with a 4GB spinning disc. granted, i never met anyone else at school doing the same thing.
- adamc 5y agoI am not convinced music prices were "unfair" -- they were higher than people wanted to pay. There is a distinction.
- danuker 5y agoWhat is a fair price? There is no such thing. An economically optimal price is one that maximizes total profit. If it's too high, fewer people will buy the product, which might reduce profit. If it's too low, the profit margin will be small in spite of lots of units sold.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago> What is a fair price? There is no such thing It's subjective, but that doesn't make it nonexistent. I pay $10/mo. for Spotify. I'm happy with that. I think I get great value for that money spent. If someone came out with an $8/month streaming service, I'd scrutinize it fairly closely before contemplating switching.
- dragonwriter 5y ago> It's subjective, but that doesn't make it nonexistent. Yes, it does. Subjective assessments have no objective reality.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago> Subjective assessments have no objective reality Subjective assessments drive political preferences and policy, to say nothing of human relations and experiences.
- dragonwriter 5y agoHallicinations of the expressed wishes of divine figures do that, too. Still doesn't make those figures, or their wishes, real. Beliefs about fair prices exist, fair prices themselves do not.
- caslon 5y agoShutting down isn't actually on the table here. In the best case, she wins. In the worst case, she goes back to her post-USSR nation that doesn't really care about international copyright law and continues to ignore international copyright law.
- creamynebula 5y agoPirating music remains lively on the private tracker scene
- xtracto 5y agoMP3 art shared by napster is different from Knowledge shared by SciHub in that the former was financed privately by record companies while the latter is funded by state taxes (i.e. public money). At the current state of affairs, Scientific Publishers can be reduced as "curators" of public research publications. They may work very well at that (i.e. reading something from Nature, or from JAMA has its prestige) but there is no reason why they should gate the knowledge behind paywalls. They should offer their "curation/selection" services, dedicated to create lists/collections of scientific articles already published elsewhere for free.