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For the UK it's a tripple whammy right now: high gas prices, a fire at an interchange to France and with Brexit they left the EU’s internal energy market. As a

For the UK it's a tripple whammy right now: high gas prices, a fire at an interchange to France and with Brexit they left the EU’s internal energy market. As a result the prices for electricity are skyrocketing at certain times of the day. That's what weekend pricing looked yesterday: https://i.imgur.com/U275C5r.png https://i.imgur.com/U275C5r.png

jeffbee 5y ago
I mean, £1/kWh is pretty high, but it's not totally outrageous and it appears to have been capped by some kind of regulatory limit. 42¢/kWh is the standard retail price in California during peak demand hours, and that's not a huge difference.
- vel0city 5y ago
  You pay $0.42/kWh real time peak price in CA on a normal day? That's an absolutely bonkers number to me. Normal peak real time prices in Texas are like $0.12/kWh
  - maccolgan 5y ago
    Yes, we are talking about California not Texas, not unexpected.
  - jeffbee 5y ago
    That’s the summer price between 4pm and 9pm in PG&E territory, yes. Avoiding this rate is pretty straightforward.
  - sethammons 5y ago
    We moved from California a few years back. We lived in an area that they had tier usage based on $DATA. That meant that you went out of the most affordable tier after you ran a refrigerator and a lightbulb. We always were charged over a dollar per kWh. Moved out to the PNW and I'm paying under $0.07/kWH now. It's fantastic.
- mjburgess 5y ago
  We usually pay 15-20p
  - jeffbee 5y ago
    I get that it's more, but I clicked through to read the article expecting something insane like the $9/kWh rates in Texas earlier this year.
    - post_break 5y ago
      Texan here, that's the wholesale rate. Only people on wholesale plans (now banned I believe) would have paid that. I paid 9c per kWh during the whole ordeal while wholesale pegged at $9 per kWh. My price is fixed at 8.9c per kWh for 2 years.
      - jeffbee 5y ago
        Sure, consumers are normally shielded from the wholesale market by regulation or contract (although not necessarily in Texas, as some learned), but I'm pretty sure the graph posted by the GP is the day-ahead wholesale market for some jurisdiction.
- wrycoder 5y ago
  I pay $0.13USD per KWh in NH for electrical energy.
  - thehappypm 5y ago
    Hello fellow New Englander! Do you know what produces NH’s energy? I believe in MA it’s mostly natural gas, though solar is growing (I’ve got solar on my roof and my electric bills have been in the single digits all summer).
    - wrycoder 5y ago
      I looked around a bit. Seabrook (nuclear) provided 60% of NH power. [1] 899 MW out of 1654MW 54% As of 2021 it's claimed that NH solar generates 141 MW [0] 8.5% Natural gas was 493 MW 30% Apparently wind energy is about zero, since it's about equal to renewables in [1] ?? [0] https://us.sunpower.com/home-solar/states/new-hampshire https://us.sunpower.com/home-solar/states/new-hampshire [1] https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NH#tabs-4 https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NH#tabs-4

jeffbee 5y ago

I mean, £1/kWh is pretty high, but it's not totally outrageous and it appears to have been capped by some kind of regulatory limit. 42¢/kWh is the standard retail price in California during peak demand hours, and that's not a huge difference.

vel0city 5y ago
You pay $0.42/kWh real time peak price in CA on a normal day? That's an absolutely bonkers number to me. Normal peak real time prices in Texas are like $0.12/kWh
- maccolgan 5y ago
  Yes, we are talking about California not Texas, not unexpected.
- jeffbee 5y ago
  That’s the summer price between 4pm and 9pm in PG&E territory, yes. Avoiding this rate is pretty straightforward.
- sethammons 5y ago
  We moved from California a few years back. We lived in an area that they had tier usage based on $DATA. That meant that you went out of the most affordable tier after you ran a refrigerator and a lightbulb. We always were charged over a dollar per kWh. Moved out to the PNW and I'm paying under $0.07/kWH now. It's fantastic.
mjburgess 5y ago
We usually pay 15-20p
- jeffbee 5y ago
  I get that it's more, but I clicked through to read the article expecting something insane like the $9/kWh rates in Texas earlier this year.
  - post_break 5y ago
    Texan here, that's the wholesale rate. Only people on wholesale plans (now banned I believe) would have paid that. I paid 9c per kWh during the whole ordeal while wholesale pegged at $9 per kWh. My price is fixed at 8.9c per kWh for 2 years.
    - jeffbee 5y ago
      Sure, consumers are normally shielded from the wholesale market by regulation or contract (although not necessarily in Texas, as some learned), but I'm pretty sure the graph posted by the GP is the day-ahead wholesale market for some jurisdiction.
wrycoder 5y ago
I pay $0.13USD per KWh in NH for electrical energy.
- thehappypm 5y ago
  Hello fellow New Englander! Do you know what produces NH’s energy? I believe in MA it’s mostly natural gas, though solar is growing (I’ve got solar on my roof and my electric bills have been in the single digits all summer).
  - wrycoder 5y ago
    I looked around a bit. Seabrook (nuclear) provided 60% of NH power. [1] 899 MW out of 1654MW 54% As of 2021 it's claimed that NH solar generates 141 MW [0] 8.5% Natural gas was 493 MW 30% Apparently wind energy is about zero, since it's about equal to renewables in [1] ?? [0] https://us.sunpower.com/home-solar/states/new-hampshire https://us.sunpower.com/home-solar/states/new-hampshire [1] https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NH#tabs-4 https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NH#tabs-4