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How big is the market for this I wonder? I run a product like it for free for 15 years now and while it has 100000s users and 1000s of companies running off it,

How big is the market for this I wonder? I run a product like it for free for 15 years now and while it has 100000s users and 1000s of companies running off it, there are only a few who would not skip to self hosted/cloud hosted instead of paying us. We are fully free (no pricing page) but we talk to our users and some sponsor us (just send some money to PayPal willy nilly when they feel like it) ; most of them say they like our solution better than others however they would just pop their own server if we would charge. Seeing how much excitement this brings, I guess I should try adding a pricing page and calling their bluff.

brightball 5y ago
Better to have a few paying customers than unlimited free. Seems like you just need to define a free tier and figure out where the cutoff is for more serious use.
bikamonki 5y ago
I use Firebase. Most projects don't need more than the free tier. A few are on the paid tier; however, the monthly cost is covered by revenue and way below the cost of running our own infra. I would not switch services/host a backend just to save a few hundred bucks. Call their bluff.
nkmnz 5y ago
Would you mind proving a Link? I’d like to sign up before you introduce pricing :P
- tluyben2 5y ago
  I did not want to take away from this 'launch' ; We are redoing the front-end (as it looks 15 y/o) and are almost done redoing it. We integrated a lot of to get a bit more modern in that version and we have an API now that allows x origin so it can serve serverless. For the API you will have to email: have 1000+ companies using it, however, I did not advertise it until the site has been redone. It is mobile unfriendly but it was never meant to do that. My main goal, because I use it for everything, is speed: entry speed, reaction speed etc. So apologies to xata, I do not see myself as a competitor, but here is the link [0]. Just email me for the new version, the api and cors. [0] https://flexlists.com https://flexlists.com

brightball 5y ago

Better to have a few paying customers than unlimited free. Seems like you just need to define a free tier and figure out where the cutoff is for more serious use.

bikamonki 5y ago

I use Firebase. Most projects don't need more than the free tier. A few are on the paid tier; however, the monthly cost is covered by revenue and way below the cost of running our own infra. I would not switch services/host a backend just to save a few hundred bucks. Call their bluff.

nkmnz 5y ago

Would you mind proving a Link? I’d like to sign up before you introduce pricing :P

tluyben2 5y ago
I did not want to take away from this 'launch' ; We are redoing the front-end (as it looks 15 y/o) and are almost done redoing it. We integrated a lot of to get a bit more modern in that version and we have an API now that allows x origin so it can serve serverless. For the API you will have to email: have 1000+ companies using it, however, I did not advertise it until the site has been redone. It is mobile unfriendly but it was never meant to do that. My main goal, because I use it for everything, is speed: entry speed, reaction speed etc. So apologies to xata, I do not see myself as a competitor, but here is the link [0]. Just email me for the new version, the api and cors. [0] https://flexlists.com https://flexlists.com