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>instead of trying to somehow help The most popular winners of the hermancainaward that you're lamenting the loss of are the kinds of people who would aggressi

>instead of trying to somehow help The most popular winners of the hermancainaward that you're lamenting the loss of are the kinds of people who would aggressively decline such help, and probably shout at you for offering it. You may call me a bad person, but I was quietly hoping that Trump died from the pandemic he exacerbated and Bezos' rocket exploded in a blaze of justice. Those people wouldn't shed a tear for you or your family, why would you for them? There's way too many people on this planet as it is, a couple less loud selfish drains on society wouldn't be too unfortunate.

robertlagrant 5y ago
But that's not justice. It's just... hate.
- brokenmachine 5y ago
  I couldn't think of the best word to use. Actually poetic justice is what I was looking for. Karma's probably pretty close to what I mean - for all the workers peeing in bottles toiling in his salt mines, and everybody's cumulative suffering because of the taxes he never paid. Just because he's been involved in corrupting the system so much that those taxes aren't even demanded doesn't mean he gets out of a karmic obligation to all the people who's work he's built his incredibly narcissistic and tone-deaf space joyride empire on. Imagine you're in a small tribe on a desert island with limited resources. Do you think Mr hog-absolutely-everything-so-I-can-joyride-a-giant-dick-that-others-designed-for-me-into-what-can-only-just-be-technically-called-space-so-I-can-now-cringeworthily-call-myself-an-astronaut-without-having-any-actual-skills would be popular in the tribe, or not? Well, we're all part of a larger tribe on a slightly bigger island with limited resources, and I have some ideas on who I wouldn't mind being seen thrown into the volcano. And all the more satisfying if there's the added poetic justice of them falling into the volcano themselves because of their own incredibly loud stupidity. So call me a hater if you like.
  - robertlagrant 5y ago
    > So call me a hater if you like. I'd probably call it tribalism? 20th century had quite a lot of poorer people killing richer people in the name of same.
    - brokenmachine 5y ago
      Yes, I'm in the 99.999999% population tribe. The billionaires are clearly a hostile, rival tribe stealing our resources.
      - robertlagrant 5y ago
        No, tribalistic thinking should go the way of the dodo. There's no "us". There are just people, who can be convinced to do unspeakable things by media over a long period gradually activating their vestigial tribalism.

robertlagrant 5y ago

But that's not justice. It's just... hate.

brokenmachine 5y ago
I couldn't think of the best word to use. Actually poetic justice is what I was looking for. Karma's probably pretty close to what I mean - for all the workers peeing in bottles toiling in his salt mines, and everybody's cumulative suffering because of the taxes he never paid. Just because he's been involved in corrupting the system so much that those taxes aren't even demanded doesn't mean he gets out of a karmic obligation to all the people who's work he's built his incredibly narcissistic and tone-deaf space joyride empire on. Imagine you're in a small tribe on a desert island with limited resources. Do you think Mr hog-absolutely-everything-so-I-can-joyride-a-giant-dick-that-others-designed-for-me-into-what-can-only-just-be-technically-called-space-so-I-can-now-cringeworthily-call-myself-an-astronaut-without-having-any-actual-skills would be popular in the tribe, or not? Well, we're all part of a larger tribe on a slightly bigger island with limited resources, and I have some ideas on who I wouldn't mind being seen thrown into the volcano. And all the more satisfying if there's the added poetic justice of them falling into the volcano themselves because of their own incredibly loud stupidity. So call me a hater if you like.
- robertlagrant 5y ago
  > So call me a hater if you like. I'd probably call it tribalism? 20th century had quite a lot of poorer people killing richer people in the name of same.
  - brokenmachine 5y ago
    Yes, I'm in the 99.999999% population tribe. The billionaires are clearly a hostile, rival tribe stealing our resources.
    - robertlagrant 5y ago
      No, tribalistic thinking should go the way of the dodo. There's no "us". There are just people, who can be convinced to do unspeakable things by media over a long period gradually activating their vestigial tribalism.