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Sure this app is kind of creepy but making it illegal for a parent to demand it? Hey great, instead of my wonderful parents paying for my college I'm going to r

Sure this app is kind of creepy but making it illegal for a parent to demand it? Hey great, instead of my wonderful parents paying for my college I'm going to report them to the cops, and send them to jail! That will show them! Of course now there's nobody to cover my college tuition but whatever. You are a mini-tyrant in training. Thinking the world's problems can all be fixed by making something illegal. Encouraging the government to interfere in intra-family relations. Never actually thinking about how any of these policies would play out. Insanity.

TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
Legislating parenting is always a bad idea.
ClumsyPilot 5y ago
"You are a mini-tyrant in training" He is tyranically fighting parental tyrany? How ironic. For every happy hamily I know one that's fucked up. Once you are 18, you are free to escape abusive parents, and that often means you loose their financial support. Sometimes thats what you have to do
- listenallyall 5y ago
  Parents who want to pay for your college are abusive? I think you use that word extremely liberally. You are 100% correct that a person ought to be entirely independent upon reaching adulthood, if he/she so chooses. You know how you do it? "Mom, Dad, I'm not going to play by your rules any more, thanks but no thanks, I'm going to make my own way out there in the world." How successful are you going to be as an independent person if you don't have the balls to make a simple statement like that, if instead of declaring independence, your only means of resolving this conflict is by calling the cops and sending your parents to jail because they "abused" you by asking you to install some app?
  - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
    "Parents who want to pay for your college are abusive? I think you use that word extremely liberally." Parenting is not all about money. Some parents have a very specific and tyrannical idea of how their kids 'should' turn out, and will not hesitate to spend money, beatings or literal blackmail to achieve it. Think of a wealthy father that beats his daughter because her behaviour is 'improper', or forces daughter/son into marriage. Or of Eton College which is stupidly elite and expensive, yet famous for beatings. This stuff is common enough that I've witnessed some of it, and it's not pretty. I am not claiming the proposal on offer here would be of any help, just trying to clarify the issue
    - listenallyall 5y ago
      Pretty sure that beatings (and blackmail too) are already covered in the criminal statutes of every state. Requesting that a child, especially an adult child, install an app, is not, and should not be. With all due respect, you've gone way, way out on a tangent that has nothing to do with the original statement or my initial reply.
LocalH 5y ago
Giving parents a blank check to "own" their kids is the better solution? Not really.
- listenallyall 5y ago
  Ummm, any kid heading off to college is allowed to say no. What the world doesn't need is cops and judges deciding mundane issues like what apps he/she has on their phone and sending parents to jail for disagreeing. What else can we make illegal? How about a parent requiring their kid to eat broccoli. How about demanding the kid maintain a C-average before joining a sports team. Let's also make it illegal for a parent to ask the kid to do some basic chores before playing video games. Surely you have some more ideas while we're at it...

TedDoesntTalk 5y ago

Legislating parenting is always a bad idea.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago

"You are a mini-tyrant in training" He is tyranically fighting parental tyrany? How ironic. For every happy hamily I know one that's fucked up. Once you are 18, you are free to escape abusive parents, and that often means you loose their financial support. Sometimes thats what you have to do

listenallyall 5y ago
Parents who want to pay for your college are abusive? I think you use that word extremely liberally. You are 100% correct that a person ought to be entirely independent upon reaching adulthood, if he/she so chooses. You know how you do it? "Mom, Dad, I'm not going to play by your rules any more, thanks but no thanks, I'm going to make my own way out there in the world." How successful are you going to be as an independent person if you don't have the balls to make a simple statement like that, if instead of declaring independence, your only means of resolving this conflict is by calling the cops and sending your parents to jail because they "abused" you by asking you to install some app?
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  "Parents who want to pay for your college are abusive? I think you use that word extremely liberally." Parenting is not all about money. Some parents have a very specific and tyrannical idea of how their kids 'should' turn out, and will not hesitate to spend money, beatings or literal blackmail to achieve it. Think of a wealthy father that beats his daughter because her behaviour is 'improper', or forces daughter/son into marriage. Or of Eton College which is stupidly elite and expensive, yet famous for beatings. This stuff is common enough that I've witnessed some of it, and it's not pretty. I am not claiming the proposal on offer here would be of any help, just trying to clarify the issue
  - listenallyall 5y ago
    Pretty sure that beatings (and blackmail too) are already covered in the criminal statutes of every state. Requesting that a child, especially an adult child, install an app, is not, and should not be. With all due respect, you've gone way, way out on a tangent that has nothing to do with the original statement or my initial reply.

LocalH 5y ago

Giving parents a blank check to "own" their kids is the better solution? Not really.

listenallyall 5y ago
Ummm, any kid heading off to college is allowed to say no. What the world doesn't need is cops and judges deciding mundane issues like what apps he/she has on their phone and sending parents to jail for disagreeing. What else can we make illegal? How about a parent requiring their kid to eat broccoli. How about demanding the kid maintain a C-average before joining a sports team. Let's also make it illegal for a parent to ask the kid to do some basic chores before playing video games. Surely you have some more ideas while we're at it...