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> And now it’s too late, since many conservatives got so invested in the fact that covid-19 is fake, and people can’t admit when they’re wrong. I wish liberals
by void_mint 5y ago
> And now it’s too late, since many conservatives got so invested in the fact that covid-19 is fake, and people can’t admit when they’re wrong. I wish liberals were more sympathetic and tried to make it easier for conservatives to accept the vaccine instead of mocking and shaming. But it’s so hard to get people to admit when they’re wrong.
It's interesting that you didn't say "I wish more conservatives would admit they were wrong", but instead put the onus of action on liberals.
- alecst 5y agoI kind of feel the same way. Like if our goal is vaccination, yea, republicans do have to eat some humble pie, but liberals shouldn’t make it harder for them than it has to be.
- void_mint 5y ago> but liberals shouldn’t make it harder for them than it has to be. It's not hard. It's insanely not hard. It's so unfathomably not difficult that this comment reads like satire. Walk into any grocery store or pharmacy.
- 8note 5y agoEmotionally difficult* The comment is calling republicans special snowflakes who can't change their minds without being coddled to do so, so they can keep an air of superiority over the liberal degenerates
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- mypalmike 5y agoIf only liberals weren't so damn smug, conservatives would find their way to doing the right thing? That's not how it works. At all. Progress in every aspect of political life has come from being pushy, not from coddling.
- armchairhacker 5y agoNo I do put most of the blame on conservatives. They're the ones who aren't taking vaccines or wearing masks. It just doesn't excuse some liberals from encouraging this left/right divide and just being nasty. Things like r/HermanCainAward, being proud when vaccine deniers get sick. At least understand that when someone is literally putting themselves in danger, they're not evil or selfish, they're delusional and misinformed.
- void_mint 5y ago> No I do put most of the blame on conservatives. They're the ones who aren't taking vaccines or wearing masks. My comment was about how, if this statement is true, you mostly skipped over it in favor of asking for action out of non-conservatives.
- nkrisc 5y agoEveryone has a choice. They choose their actions, they choose who to listen to, they choose what to believe. They choose to be open or closed minded. They choose to listen to new ideas or not. A lot of people are choosing wrong and suffering for it. They had a choice. No one can take that away from them, they always had a choice. Propaganda only works if you choose to believe it.
- scrollaway 5y agoIt's not always a free choice. For you and me it might be, because we may have the acquired skills to research sources, spot bullshit, etc. We still miss stuff. But for a lot of people "choosing wrong", it might just be the sum of their environment. A media diet too heavily reliant on Facebook for example. Ah but they're choosing to stay on Facebook you say... Well, yes, but if they can't directly make the link between Facebook and the propaganda, they don't even know they have a choice to make. "Free will exists" is a hand wavy way of victim blaming here, imo. There is a reason these people are called victims of propaganda, not willful soldiers.
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- MCllorf 5y agoIt feels like in a lot of circles now the expectation is for Conservatives to be unreasonable idiots, so people tend to put the blame on non-conservatives in the same way you'd blame the parent for raising a snotty child