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I wonder about Universal Childcare, and it's not that it's not needed. I wonder who's going to provide it. Being male, I don't know if I would even venture in

I wonder about Universal Childcare, and it's not that it's not needed. I wonder who's going to provide it. Being male, I don't know if I would even venture into the area. I couldn't imagine being interrogated by parents, and the whole vetting process. And yes--it might make more sence for a woman to open up a child care facility? The list of government regulation must get onerious too? Where are we going to find all these babysitters? Second--the money will come on the form of a federal tax credit. Why do I feel that money will end up going to other things a young family needs? At this point, I'd rather see a Basic Income that goes to all low income Americans. They could use the money for anything.

gizmo686 5y ago
Tax credits are not the only mechanism for government funding. We already have a very successful model of government provided childcare: the public school system.
heavyset_go 5y ago
> At this point, I'd rather see a Basic Income that goes to all low income Americans. They could use the money for anything. If you apply this logic to other government subsidized programs, where we remove the subsidies and give people some cash, you'll quickly run into problems. Look at how much money it costs to simply buy health coverage on the individual market for a family with one kid with no subsidies. It's $16k - $24k in yearly premiums, with $6k - $12k yearly deductibles, and $17k+ yearly out of pocket maximums. Almost all of the proposed UBI amounts would go towards just the premiums alone, without even getting into deductibles, out of pocket maximums, copays or out of network care. The situation many families would face would be a choice between being able to see a doctor, receiving adequate and safe childcare, paying rent, etc.
CydeWeys 5y ago
You could make similar arguments about any government job that requires lots of manpower (schools, the military, sanitation, whatever), and yet they do find the workers. That's not a problem. Your average government job is a lot better than your average fast food/retail job in terms of pay/benefits/job stability, so they'll definitely find the employees.

gizmo686 5y ago

Tax credits are not the only mechanism for government funding. We already have a very successful model of government provided childcare: the public school system.

heavyset_go 5y ago

> At this point, I'd rather see a Basic Income that goes to all low income Americans. They could use the money for anything. If you apply this logic to other government subsidized programs, where we remove the subsidies and give people some cash, you'll quickly run into problems. Look at how much money it costs to simply buy health coverage on the individual market for a family with one kid with no subsidies. It's $16k - $24k in yearly premiums, with $6k - $12k yearly deductibles, and $17k+ yearly out of pocket maximums. Almost all of the proposed UBI amounts would go towards just the premiums alone, without even getting into deductibles, out of pocket maximums, copays or out of network care. The situation many families would face would be a choice between being able to see a doctor, receiving adequate and safe childcare, paying rent, etc.

CydeWeys 5y ago

You could make similar arguments about any government job that requires lots of manpower (schools, the military, sanitation, whatever), and yet they do find the workers. That's not a problem. Your average government job is a lot better than your average fast food/retail job in terms of pay/benefits/job stability, so they'll definitely find the employees.