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> but now things are better - radio silence. Why? Because it’s expected in a highly vaccinated population.

by ipv6ipv4 5y ago

SergeAx 5y ago
Israel and UK are highly vaccinated, but their things are pretty far from being better.
- ipv6ipv4 5y ago
  I don't have the numbers handy for the U.K. I'm copy pasting what I dredged up for an earlier comment on the comparison with Israel. As of Sep. 1, 82% of eligible Swedes have had one shot, and 70% are fully vaccinated. Sweden seems to be close to, if not already at, the coveted herd immunity by vaccination. In comparison, in Israel, 65% have had one shot and only 60% are fully vaccinated (a smidge over half of those 3x).
  - leereeves 5y ago
    > 82% of eligible Swedes have had one shot, and 70% are fully vaccinated You should compare eligible to eligible, not 82% of eligible Swedes to 65% of all Israelis. In Israel, "eligible" includes being over 12 years old (the vaccines aren't approved for younger children yet), and according to NPR, as of a month ago "78% of eligible Israelis over 12 years old are vaccinated." https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628...
  - SergeAx 5y ago
    I am taking data from Google search page, it claims it took it from Our World On Data. Sweden: 61.9% of population fully vaccinated, Israel: 61.6% of population fully vaccinated. Those numbers are pretty much the same. I think your error was to compare % of elegible Swedes and % of Israel population.
  - SergeAx 5y ago
    Anyway, I still think that Israel is highly vaccinated. If I sort Google data by % of population vaccinated, I see typical result is 70%-75%, bar microscopic countries like San Marino or Malta. Undervaccinated countries like Argentina or Brazil are at 35%-45%.
- eigen 5y ago
  Israel was among the first countries to reach a vaccinated majority in March 2021, thats likely where this common wisdom comes from. but since then it appears that the vaccination rate has stagnated. From Aug 20, "That means only 58% of Israel's total citizenry is fully vaccinated. [1]" [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628...

> but now things are better - radio silence. Why? Because it’s expected in a highly vaccinated population.

SergeAx 5y ago

Israel and UK are highly vaccinated, but their things are pretty far from being better.

ipv6ipv4 5y ago
I don't have the numbers handy for the U.K. I'm copy pasting what I dredged up for an earlier comment on the comparison with Israel. As of Sep. 1, 82% of eligible Swedes have had one shot, and 70% are fully vaccinated. Sweden seems to be close to, if not already at, the coveted herd immunity by vaccination. In comparison, in Israel, 65% have had one shot and only 60% are fully vaccinated (a smidge over half of those 3x).
- leereeves 5y ago
  > 82% of eligible Swedes have had one shot, and 70% are fully vaccinated You should compare eligible to eligible, not 82% of eligible Swedes to 65% of all Israelis. In Israel, "eligible" includes being over 12 years old (the vaccines aren't approved for younger children yet), and according to NPR, as of a month ago "78% of eligible Israelis over 12 years old are vaccinated." https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628...
- SergeAx 5y ago
  I am taking data from Google search page, it claims it took it from Our World On Data. Sweden: 61.9% of population fully vaccinated, Israel: 61.6% of population fully vaccinated. Those numbers are pretty much the same. I think your error was to compare % of elegible Swedes and % of Israel population.
- SergeAx 5y ago
  Anyway, I still think that Israel is highly vaccinated. If I sort Google data by % of population vaccinated, I see typical result is 70%-75%, bar microscopic countries like San Marino or Malta. Undervaccinated countries like Argentina or Brazil are at 35%-45%.
eigen 5y ago
Israel was among the first countries to reach a vaccinated majority in March 2021, thats likely where this common wisdom comes from. but since then it appears that the vaccination rate has stagnated. From Aug 20, "That means only 58% of Israel's total citizenry is fully vaccinated. [1]" [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628...