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honestly, it's not the worst pattern match; because a lot of conspiracy theories actually were conspiracy theories. E.G. CIA testing LSD, Tuskeegee siphilis st

honestly, it's not the worst pattern match; because a lot of conspiracy theories actually were conspiracy theories. E.G. CIA testing LSD, Tuskeegee siphilis study, Polio Vaccines used as a spy operation to catch Osama Bin Laden...

chongli 5y ago
Sometimes the rustle in the bushes actually is a tiger. But I think some people live in a world haunted by tigers. The internet has given these individuals an unprecedented ability to connect with others who see things in a similar way. People suffering from something like this may feel totally isolated from regular people around them and so meeting fellow sufferers online must be a great relief and comfort. Unfortunately, from their perspective, the affliction is external rather than internal.
- GauntletWizard 5y ago
  To many people, the malicious, or at least "counter to their interests but with forced participation" action they have to deal with every day might as well be a world haunted by tigers. I have Adtech clients, and the lengths that are gone to to track conversions are astounding - Sometimes when I'm explaining the pipelines to myself I'm convinced I'm talking about a crazy conspiracy.
pjc50 5y ago
Quite a lot of conspiracy theories are "exactly wrong"; that is, they resemble something that happened or is happening, but the persons involved are wrong and the motives are wrong. Even weirder, the conspiracists don't cite the true events as support of their theories. "big pharma" => see Purdue "pizzagate" => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Nolan_(politician) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Nolan_(politician) "is an American registered sex offender and former state district court judge, a former leader in the Republican Party and a former chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign in Campbell County, Kentucky. On February 9, 2018, he pleaded guilty to 19 counts of child sex trafficking and human trafficking; on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison" and so on. > Tuskeegee siphilis study And a lot of conspiracy theories are "what if this thing the US did to black people it also did to white people"
- atatatat 5y ago
  > pizzagate Both parties and beyond, everyone must stop the partisan squabbling. No, I don't care about the psyop you read on reddit.
  - pjc50 5y ago
    I was using it as an example of a conspiracy theory. > Both parties and beyond, everyone must stop the partisan squabbling Prisoner's dilemma: the first person to stop being partisan loses. And demonstrably hyper-partisanship is working for at least one party.
    - atatatat 5y ago
      Non D or R here: I'm the prisoner. I'm losing. You all suck. Abolish First Past the Post.
      - pjc50 5y ago
        > Abolish First Past the Post I'm not even in the same prison, I'm a Brit, and I strongly agree with this. I actually get to vote in a non-FPTP election as well and, surprise surprise, it produces much better results.
        refurb 5y ago
        Really? San Francisco ended up with a relatively unknown hack as District Attorney due to a ranked choice system. Seems like just trade one problem for another.
        atatatat 5y ago
        If the "problem" is "people actually have to pay attention to their governance", then...?
        5y ago
pessimizer 5y ago
I think this is more an illustration and reminder that "conspiracy theory" was a term that was workshopped to dismiss criticism (about the JFK assassination investigations.) None of those were conspiracy theories, and were trivially verifiable shortly after they happened. They were just aggressively dismissed and ignored by anybody who had the authority to punish someone responsible. This goes on until everyone responsible is dead, or legal clocks have run down.

chongli 5y ago

Sometimes the rustle in the bushes actually is a tiger. But I think some people live in a world haunted by tigers. The internet has given these individuals an unprecedented ability to connect with others who see things in a similar way. People suffering from something like this may feel totally isolated from regular people around them and so meeting fellow sufferers online must be a great relief and comfort. Unfortunately, from their perspective, the affliction is external rather than internal.

GauntletWizard 5y ago
To many people, the malicious, or at least "counter to their interests but with forced participation" action they have to deal with every day might as well be a world haunted by tigers. I have Adtech clients, and the lengths that are gone to to track conversions are astounding - Sometimes when I'm explaining the pipelines to myself I'm convinced I'm talking about a crazy conspiracy.

pjc50 5y ago

Quite a lot of conspiracy theories are "exactly wrong"; that is, they resemble something that happened or is happening, but the persons involved are wrong and the motives are wrong. Even weirder, the conspiracists don't cite the true events as support of their theories. "big pharma" => see Purdue "pizzagate" => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Nolan_(politician) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Nolan_(politician) "is an American registered sex offender and former state district court judge, a former leader in the Republican Party and a former chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign in Campbell County, Kentucky. On February 9, 2018, he pleaded guilty to 19 counts of child sex trafficking and human trafficking; on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison" and so on. > Tuskeegee siphilis study And a lot of conspiracy theories are "what if this thing the US did to black people it also did to white people"

atatatat 5y ago
> pizzagate Both parties and beyond, everyone must stop the partisan squabbling. No, I don't care about the psyop you read on reddit.
- pjc50 5y ago
  I was using it as an example of a conspiracy theory. > Both parties and beyond, everyone must stop the partisan squabbling Prisoner's dilemma: the first person to stop being partisan loses. And demonstrably hyper-partisanship is working for at least one party.
  - atatatat 5y ago
    Non D or R here: I'm the prisoner. I'm losing. You all suck. Abolish First Past the Post.
    - pjc50 5y ago
      > Abolish First Past the Post I'm not even in the same prison, I'm a Brit, and I strongly agree with this. I actually get to vote in a non-FPTP election as well and, surprise surprise, it produces much better results.
      - refurb 5y ago
        Really? San Francisco ended up with a relatively unknown hack as District Attorney due to a ranked choice system. Seems like just trade one problem for another.
        atatatat 5y ago
        If the "problem" is "people actually have to pay attention to their governance", then...?
        5y ago

pessimizer 5y ago

I think this is more an illustration and reminder that "conspiracy theory" was a term that was workshopped to dismiss criticism (about the JFK assassination investigations.) None of those were conspiracy theories, and were trivially verifiable shortly after they happened. They were just aggressively dismissed and ignored by anybody who had the authority to punish someone responsible. This goes on until everyone responsible is dead, or legal clocks have run down.