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That sounds like the worst of both worlds! A codified two tier underclass. With one part in an unemplyed malaise, angry at having no purpose, and blind to the
by bullfightonmars 5y ago
That sounds like the worst of both worlds! A codified two tier underclass. With one part in an unemplyed malaise, angry at having no purpose, and blind to the benefits they recieve. The other part an exploited class with no rights or benefits.
- kube-system 5y agoThat situation you describe is already the status quo today in the US, just replace “UBI” with “SSN”.
- rmah 5y agoJust as an FYI, all permanent residents in the USA can get a SSN. You don't need to be a citizen.
- kube-system 5y agoI understand, however there is a significant population of people without one.
- nobodyandproud 5y agoIt would only work, if the penalty for employing the illegal-to-hire were severe enough. As others have pointed out already, this is already true today: We use undocumented-workers, recent immigrants who don’t know better, and prison labor. Recently, prison labor use has been on the rise.
- dagw 5y agoRecently, prison labor use has been on the rise. Maybe losing UBI for N months could be a new standard punishment for certain crimes or a condition for parole. We'll let you out of prison early for good behavior, but no UBI for 2 years, forcing you to take those jobs no one else wants.
- nobodyandproud 5y agoThat’s interesting. For anyone with enough resources, though, it would be a slap on the wrist. For example, I feel that certain high financial crimes are better served by percentage of net-worth, rather than exact dollar-figures. Otherwise it’s a fixed cost of doing business.