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If you want to walk, as opposed to just get somewhere in a car, I have yet to find anything better than an OS map. Google Maps is hopeless for footpaths; OpenSt

by pm215 5y ago

If you want to walk, as opposed to just get somewhere in a car, I have yet to find anything better than an OS map. Google Maps is hopeless for footpaths; OpenStreetMaps is a bit better but it depends a lot on whether somebody enthusiastic has put in the data for the area you're in. The OS map is always reliably comprehensive. Plus these days if you buy a paper map it includes a code so you can also download the digital version to a mobile app (or you can get an annual subscription to get access to the whole lot, but for me I find that uneconomical.)

stefanu 5y ago
In Czechia and Slovakia we have mapy.cz which gives you more detailed map for walking/hiking, including contour lines. See [^1] for example. The coloured trails you can see at more detailed zoom levels, are part of the hiking trail system. The outdoor signage even has a national technical norm [^2] (in Slovak, but has some terminology translated int to English and German). [1] https://en.mapy.cz/turisticka?x=19.8702765&y=48.7675046&z=14 https://en.mapy.cz/turisticka?x=19.8702765&y=48.7675046&z=14 [2] http://www.jazdecka-turistika.sk/images/stories/dokumenty/KTS_norma_STN_01_8025.pdf http://www.jazdecka-turistika.sk/images/stories/dokumenty/KT...
- miniscapes 5y ago
  I must concur, I have used mapy.cz for hiking across the Europe with great success. Even on Iceland.
- topdancing 5y ago
  This is just OpenStreetMap with another frontend on top, you can see this by going to the area[1] and going to the right, selecting layers and looking at the CyclOSM one. Also, a bit lame that on mapy.cz, you have to click on the "and others" to actually see the OpenStreetMap credit. [1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.75343/19.87948 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.75343/19.87948
  - inglor_cz 5y ago
    Mapy.cz has a lot of other layers, try them out. Including historical and photo maps. This is the full list of holders of copyrights: Základní, Turistická, Zimní a další níže neuvedené mapy: „© Seznam.cz, a.s.” „© AOPK ČR – ochrana přírody a krajiny” „© Slovenská agentúra živ. prostredia” – digitální model terénu SR „© Národné lesnické centrum SR” – lesní a polní cesty SR „© Přispěvatelé OpenStreetMap” Letecká mapa (ortofotomapa): „© Seznam.cz, a.s.” (zoom 9-20 jen v ČR) „© TopGis, s.r.o.” (zoom 9-20 jen v ČR) „© EUROSENSE s.r.o.” (zoom 9-19 jen SR) „© GEODIS Slovakia s.r.o.” (zoom 9-19 jen SR) „© www.basemap.at” (zoom 9-19 jen Rakousko) „© NASA Earth Observatory” (zoom 2-8) „© Sentinel-2 cloudless - https://s2maps.eu by EOX IT Services GmbH (Contains modified Copernicus Sentinel data 2016 & 2017” (zoom 8-13 jen Evropa mimo ČR, SR) „© Microsoft Corporation” (zoom 14-19 jen mimo ČR a SR) Archivní Letecká mapa '15, '12, '06 a '03: „© GEODIS BRNO, s.r.o.” (zoom 9-20 jen v ČR) „© EUROSENSE s.r.o.” (zoom 9-19 jen SR) „© GEODIS Slovakia s.r.o.” (zoom 9-19 jen SR) „© NASA Earth Observatory” (zoom 2-7) „© Sentinel-2 cloudless - https://s2maps.eu by EOX IT Services GmbH (Contains modified Copernicus Sentinel data 2016 & 2017” (zoom 8-13 jen mimo ČR a SR) Historická mapa (z 19. století): „© 2nd Military Survey, Austrian State Archive” „© Datový podklad MŽP ČR” „© Laboratoř geoinformatiky UJEP” Panorama: „© Seznam.cz, a.s.” „© GIS - Stavinvex, a.s.” „© TopGis, s.r.o.” „© GEODIS BRNO, s.r.o.” 3D mapa: „© Seznam.cz, a.s.” „© Melown Maps™” „© TopGis, s.r.o.“ „© GEODIS BRNO, s.r.o.” „© www.basemap.at” (zoom 9-19 jen Rakousko) „© NASA Earth Observatory” (zoom 2-8) „© Sentinel-2 cloudless - https://s2maps.eu by EOX IT Services GmbH (Contains modified Copernicus Sentinel data 2016 & 2017” (zoom 8-13 jen Evropa mimo ČR, SR) „© Microsoft Corporation“ (zoom 14-19 jen mimo ČR a SR)” “©2005-16 Jonathan de Ferranti” “© Přispěvatelé OpenStreetMap”
  - jhgb 5y ago
    Surely there's nothing wrong with using OSM as one of your primary map data sources? As far as I know, Mapy.cz uses several sources in the Czechoslovak territory, although abroad, perhaps quite a bit fewer of them are being used.
    - topdancing 5y ago
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  Mapy.cz is a great product and I would say "underrated". They feel so much more natural than Google Maps to me. But that might be cultural (de)formation of a previously young person who used to hike with paper maps of similar style.
frabcus 5y ago
There's now a £2.99 a month subscription, which can be cancelled at any time, that gets you all maps - and you can download chunks in advance too: https://shop.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/apps/os-maps/ https://shop.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/apps/os-maps/
arichard123 5y ago
I've found open street map much better in the lake district. The car park at walna scar is missing on the os map, which is the best spot to walk the old man. There are a number of missing paths on the os map around rusland pool.
stavros 5y ago
I quite like the StreetComplete Android app: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet... It sees where you are, finds incomplete items on OSM and asks you if you know things about them. Very handy to use as you're walking around, and a very easy way to submit data to OSM.
- aembleton 5y ago
  I wish I could add new items using that app that are missing from it.
topdancing 5y ago
> OpenStreetMaps is a bit better but it depends a lot on whether somebody enthusiastic has put in the data for the area you're in If you do find an area with missing data, do feel free to create an account and add it yourself. That's literally the only way the open source map gets better.
- shakna 5y ago
  I, personally, gave up trying to update the data for my area, because about once a month all changes get reverted as "they may be from a copyrighted source" (which happens to be the public domain federal mapping service). Someone else was more persistent, and managed to get my suburb as existing after five years. There's a lot more to it than just nobody having volunteered to do the legwork yet.
  - topdancing 5y ago
    You cannot just copy and paste things from a public domain data source without first checking the copyright terms and making sure that they're compatible with the OSM license (if they are, you can comment on the revert changeset saying so): - https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources In my experience, the satellite imagery available in the OSM editor to trace buildings and paths (which the other commenter was talking about) - and when I want to add shops and other things; a quick survey with some photos - are both more than enough for most things.
    - shakna 5y ago
      > You cannot just copy and paste things from a public domain data source without first checking the copyright terms There's an oxymoron here. Many public data sources that are free to use, do in fact have copyright considerations to be made, correct. However, "public domain" does not have copyright terms attached. That is why it is in the public domain. If something is actually public domain, there is no copyright holder, and no terms to be enforced.
aembleton 5y ago
I find Harveys Maps to be much better for walking. They don't cover the whole country but they do have the advantage of - Having the whole of the Lake District on a single map. - Printing on plastic so they don't get damaged and are more compact than the OS laminated maps - Excluding political boundaries as I don't care about them - Showing the location of the footpath as well as its legal location; sometimes they're on different sides of the wall - The reverse of the map usually gives you detailed information on the layers of rock beneath your feet which is interesting for extra reading.
- pm215 5y ago
  You're not kidding about the limited coverage -- their website shows nothing except some trail maps over the whole of southern England with the exception of Dartmoor. And southern England is where I am so it's where I walk mostly...

by pm215 5y ago

stefanu 5y ago

In Czechia and Slovakia we have mapy.cz which gives you more detailed map for walking/hiking, including contour lines. See [^1] for example. The coloured trails you can see at more detailed zoom levels, are part of the hiking trail system. The outdoor signage even has a national technical norm [^2] (in Slovak, but has some terminology translated int to English and German). [1] https://en.mapy.cz/turisticka?x=19.8702765&y=48.7675046&z=14 https://en.mapy.cz/turisticka?x=19.8702765&y=48.7675046&z=14 [2] http://www.jazdecka-turistika.sk/images/stories/dokumenty/KTS_norma_STN_01_8025.pdf http://www.jazdecka-turistika.sk/images/stories/dokumenty/KT...

miniscapes 5y ago
I must concur, I have used mapy.cz for hiking across the Europe with great success. Even on Iceland.
topdancing 5y ago
This is just OpenStreetMap with another frontend on top, you can see this by going to the area[1] and going to the right, selecting layers and looking at the CyclOSM one. Also, a bit lame that on mapy.cz, you have to click on the "and others" to actually see the OpenStreetMap credit. [1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.75343/19.87948 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.75343/19.87948
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  Mapy.cz has a lot of other layers, try them out. Including historical and photo maps. This is the full list of holders of copyrights: Základní, Turistická, Zimní a další níže neuvedené mapy: „© Seznam.cz, a.s.” „© AOPK ČR – ochrana přírody a krajiny” „© Slovenská agentúra živ. prostredia” – digitální model terénu SR „© Národné lesnické centrum SR” – lesní a polní cesty SR „© Přispěvatelé OpenStreetMap” Letecká mapa (ortofotomapa): „© Seznam.cz, a.s.” (zoom 9-20 jen v ČR) „© TopGis, s.r.o.” (zoom 9-20 jen v ČR) „© EUROSENSE s.r.o.” (zoom 9-19 jen SR) „© GEODIS Slovakia s.r.o.” (zoom 9-19 jen SR) „© www.basemap.at” (zoom 9-19 jen Rakousko) „© NASA Earth Observatory” (zoom 2-8) „© Sentinel-2 cloudless - https://s2maps.eu by EOX IT Services GmbH (Contains modified Copernicus Sentinel data 2016 & 2017” (zoom 8-13 jen Evropa mimo ČR, SR) „© Microsoft Corporation” (zoom 14-19 jen mimo ČR a SR) Archivní Letecká mapa '15, '12, '06 a '03: „© GEODIS BRNO, s.r.o.” (zoom 9-20 jen v ČR) „© EUROSENSE s.r.o.” (zoom 9-19 jen SR) „© GEODIS Slovakia s.r.o.” (zoom 9-19 jen SR) „© NASA Earth Observatory” (zoom 2-7) „© Sentinel-2 cloudless - https://s2maps.eu by EOX IT Services GmbH (Contains modified Copernicus Sentinel data 2016 & 2017” (zoom 8-13 jen mimo ČR a SR) Historická mapa (z 19. století): „© 2nd Military Survey, Austrian State Archive” „© Datový podklad MŽP ČR” „© Laboratoř geoinformatiky UJEP” Panorama: „© Seznam.cz, a.s.” „© GIS - Stavinvex, a.s.” „© TopGis, s.r.o.” „© GEODIS BRNO, s.r.o.” 3D mapa: „© Seznam.cz, a.s.” „© Melown Maps™” „© TopGis, s.r.o.“ „© GEODIS BRNO, s.r.o.” „© www.basemap.at” (zoom 9-19 jen Rakousko) „© NASA Earth Observatory” (zoom 2-8) „© Sentinel-2 cloudless - https://s2maps.eu by EOX IT Services GmbH (Contains modified Copernicus Sentinel data 2016 & 2017” (zoom 8-13 jen Evropa mimo ČR, SR) „© Microsoft Corporation“ (zoom 14-19 jen mimo ČR a SR)” “©2005-16 Jonathan de Ferranti” “© Přispěvatelé OpenStreetMap”
- jhgb 5y ago
  Surely there's nothing wrong with using OSM as one of your primary map data sources? As far as I know, Mapy.cz uses several sources in the Czechoslovak territory, although abroad, perhaps quite a bit fewer of them are being used.
  - topdancing 5y ago
inglor_cz 5y ago
Mapy.cz is a great product and I would say "underrated". They feel so much more natural than Google Maps to me. But that might be cultural (de)formation of a previously young person who used to hike with paper maps of similar style.

frabcus 5y ago

There's now a £2.99 a month subscription, which can be cancelled at any time, that gets you all maps - and you can download chunks in advance too: https://shop.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/apps/os-maps/ https://shop.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/apps/os-maps/

arichard123 5y ago

I've found open street map much better in the lake district. The car park at walna scar is missing on the os map, which is the best spot to walk the old man. There are a number of missing paths on the os map around rusland pool.

stavros 5y ago

I quite like the StreetComplete Android app: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet... It sees where you are, finds incomplete items on OSM and asks you if you know things about them. Very handy to use as you're walking around, and a very easy way to submit data to OSM.

aembleton 5y ago
I wish I could add new items using that app that are missing from it.

topdancing 5y ago

> OpenStreetMaps is a bit better but it depends a lot on whether somebody enthusiastic has put in the data for the area you're in If you do find an area with missing data, do feel free to create an account and add it yourself. That's literally the only way the open source map gets better.

shakna 5y ago
I, personally, gave up trying to update the data for my area, because about once a month all changes get reverted as "they may be from a copyrighted source" (which happens to be the public domain federal mapping service). Someone else was more persistent, and managed to get my suburb as existing after five years. There's a lot more to it than just nobody having volunteered to do the legwork yet.
- topdancing 5y ago
  You cannot just copy and paste things from a public domain data source without first checking the copyright terms and making sure that they're compatible with the OSM license (if they are, you can comment on the revert changeset saying so): - https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources In my experience, the satellite imagery available in the OSM editor to trace buildings and paths (which the other commenter was talking about) - and when I want to add shops and other things; a quick survey with some photos - are both more than enough for most things.
  - shakna 5y ago
    > You cannot just copy and paste things from a public domain data source without first checking the copyright terms There's an oxymoron here. Many public data sources that are free to use, do in fact have copyright considerations to be made, correct. However, "public domain" does not have copyright terms attached. That is why it is in the public domain. If something is actually public domain, there is no copyright holder, and no terms to be enforced.

aembleton 5y ago

I find Harveys Maps to be much better for walking. They don't cover the whole country but they do have the advantage of - Having the whole of the Lake District on a single map. - Printing on plastic so they don't get damaged and are more compact than the OS laminated maps - Excluding political boundaries as I don't care about them - Showing the location of the footpath as well as its legal location; sometimes they're on different sides of the wall - The reverse of the map usually gives you detailed information on the layers of rock beneath your feet which is interesting for extra reading.

pm215 5y ago
You're not kidding about the limited coverage -- their website shows nothing except some trail maps over the whole of southern England with the exception of Dartmoor. And southern England is where I am so it's where I walk mostly...