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Here is an easy way to confirm if it's truly Ireland: this is a site that I absolutely LOVE: it has a 3D model of the earth's surface, can simulate the horizon
by mrb 5y ago
Here is an easy way to confirm if it's truly Ireland: this is a site that I absolutely LOVE: it has a 3D model of the earth's surface, can simulate the horizon visible from any point on the planet, and can automatically identify the farthest peaks visible: https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/makepanoramas.htm https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/makepanoramas.htm
Here are the horizons it computed from the author's location, annotated by myself to align them with the pictures from the blog post: https://imgur.com/a/AlGiDi4 https://imgur.com/a/AlGiDi4 (open that on desktop—imgur serves low-resolution images to mobile browsers)...and unfortunately, what the author believes to be Ireland is actually Anglesey. What he believes to be Anglesey is actually Great Orme. What he believes to be Great Orme is actually Little Orme. Essentially all the peaks he identified are in reality shifted by 1 peak to the north. And the outline of the peaks in his pictures match the outlines of the simulated horizon so there is no doubt: he saw Anglesey (70 miles) and not Ireland (~150 miles).
Here are the parameters I used to generate the first rendering (after filling them in, click "Panorama anzeigen"—direct link: https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/panqueryfull.aspx?mode=newstandard&data=lon:-2.53707$$$lat:53.63638$$$alt:auto$$$altcam:10$$$hialt:false$$$resolution:200$$$azimut:248$$$sweep:7$$$leftbound:244.5$$$rightbound:251.5$$$split:6$$$splitnr:2$$$tilt:-0.583333333333333$$$tiltsplit:false$$$elexagg:1.2$$$range:300$$$colorcoding:false$$$colorcodinglimit:113$$$title:Zugspitze$$$description:$$$email:$$$language:ge$$$screenwidth:2560$$$screenheight:1414 https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/panqueryfull.aspx?mode=ne... ):
Breite (°): 53.63638 Länge (°): -2.53707 (these are the GPS coordinates that correspond to the layby where the author parked and made his binocular observations)
Blickrichtung (°): 248 (azimuth, or direction of observation)
Blickfeld (°): 7 (field of view)
Zoomfaktor: 10 (zoom)
And for the second rendering, just change these params (direct link: https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/panqueryfull.aspx?mode=newstandard&data=lon:-2.53707$$$lat:53.63638$$$alt:auto$$$altcam:10$$$hialt:false$$$resolution:600$$$azimut:251.5$$$sweep:3$$$leftbound:250$$$rightbound:253$$$split:2$$$splitnr:2$$$tilt:-0.569444444444445$$$tiltsplit:false$$$elexagg:1.2$$$range:300$$$colorcoding:false$$$colorcodinglimit:113$$$title:Zugspitze$$$description:$$$email:$$$language:ge$$$screenwidth:2560$$$screenheight:1414 https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/panqueryfull.aspx?mode=ne... ):
Blickrichtung (°): 251.5
Blickfeld (°): 3
Zoomfaktor: 30
When I was a teenager I realized one morning I could see what could be Mont Blanc from my town, but very rarely only on specific mornings when the sun would rise right behind it. But I could never confirm because I saw it of my own eyes, without binoculars, and the right meteorological conditions only reoccured twice in my lifetime to see it. About 20 years later, when I found the udeuschle.de panorama site, I checked and was absolutely delighted when the site confirmed the shape of the peak that I remember so well matched exactly the generated horizon :-) It was at a distance of 130 miles...
EDIT: in order to see Ireland from the blog post author's location, you have to raise the camera at an altitude of about 1400m above ground (set the altitude in the Kamerahöhe field): https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/panqueryfull.aspx?mode=newstandard&data=lon:-2.53707$$$lat:53.63638$$$alt:auto$$$altcam:1400$$$hialt:false$$$resolution:40$$$azimut:255$$$sweep:40$$$leftbound:235$$$rightbound:275$$$split:30$$$splitnr:2$$$tilt:auto$$$tiltsplit:false$$$elexagg:1.2$$$range:300$$$colorcoding:false$$$colorcodinglimit:129$$$title:test$$$description:$$$email:$$$language:ge$$$screenwidth:2560$$$screenheight:1414 https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/panqueryfull.aspx?mode=ne... (screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/AT0BAnm https://imgur.com/a/AT0BAnm ) The Irish peak visible is mount Kippure, next to the red mark "Max Dist" which is 159 miles away). It's a site made for desktop browsers. You can hover the mouse pointer over any peak label and it will show the distance to it. If you click it, Google Maps opens to the given peak, etc. A really neat way to explore the Earth. By the way in the above rendering at altitude 1400m you can still recognize Little Orme and Great Orme (at about one third from the image from left). The high-altitude perspective gives an idea of how much farther Ireland is behind these peaks.
EDIT 2: at only about 900m above ground, the author could see Slieve Donard 143 miles away in Ireland (well, Northern Ireland, not the Republic of Ireland): https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/panqueryfull.aspx?mode=newstandard&data=lon:-2.53705$$$lat:53.63625$$$alt:auto$$$altcam:900$$$hialt:false$$$resolution:20$$$azimut:275$$$sweep:75$$$leftbound:237.5$$$rightbound:312.5$$$split:60$$$splitnr:2$$$tilt:auto$$$tiltsplit:false$$$elexagg:1.2$$$range:300$$$colorcoding:false$$$colorcodinglimit:231$$$title:Zugspitze$$$description:$$$email:$$$language:ge$$$screenwidth:393$$$screenheight:851 https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/panqueryfull.aspx?mode=ne...
- therealdrag0 5y agoAnother one I’ve used is heywhatsthat.com
- bscphil 5y agoI think you undersold the upshot here, which is that no, the author did not actually see Ireland. Anyway, there are so many little projects out there run by people outside of the whole open source universe and don't even think to put up a Github page. Windows freeware is a big example, as well as a bunch of little hobby websites that probably don't earn any money but provide extremely valuable services. They'll probably just disappear one day when the owner gets bored or dies. In the mapping department alone, there's this, gpsvisualizer.com, caltopo.com, Orux Maps (although that developer may earn enough from donations to keep it going). Lots of web based tools that are fulfilling a critical role for someone, somewhere, but nobody has a backup copy of the code.
- aasasd 5y ago> a bunch of little hobby websites that probably don't earn any money but provide extremely valuable services. They'll probably just disappear one day when the owner gets bored or dies. I mean, that's exactly The Small Web of Ye Olde Days, for which HN keeps pining and lamenting every day. Or rather, the cream of that Olde Web, on top of the ‘here's my dog’ home pages.
- matja 5y agoIs that considering one can see over the horizon when the conditions are right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction
- shakna 5y ago> Atmospheric refraction is accounted for with the Gaussian refraction coefficient or 0.13 [0] It appears so. [0] https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/help_01_en.htm https://www.udeuschle.de/panoramas/help_01_en.htm
- jack_riminton 5y ago