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Wow, I had no idea that 2 existed. I'm a bit of a Luddite it seems, I still get awkward with self checkout. But this sounds like a really cool idea. So you c

Wow, I had no idea that 2 existed. I'm a bit of a Luddite it seems, I still get awkward with self checkout. But this sounds like a really cool idea. So you can bring your own tote bags and fill them as you go, then at the end just...pay? Sounds awesome. But also sounds really ripe for abuse, unfortunately.

callahad 5y ago
> So you can bring your own tote bags and fill them as you go, then at the end just...pay? Exactly. It's become more or less a standard option in the UK, with most larger supermarkets even offering a wall of handheld scanners that clip onto your cart if you don't want to use your phone. Still strikes me as weird, but that's probably just me getting old. Not sure how they deal with fraud.
- Closi 5y ago
  > Not sure how they deal with fraud. When you scan the QR code at the end it will usually tell you just to pay, but sometimes it will ask you to wait for an attendant to check that you have scanned everything correctly. Assuming everything was accurate, it then updates a ‘confidence’ score in the background for you - and if you always scan everything correctly the checks quickly become less frequent / almost non-existent. If you always scan everything wrong, the attendants will be asked to check it every time.
  - callahad 5y ago
    Ah, hence the requirement of joining the loyalty programme -- lets them track scores even when using a store-provided scanner. Makes sense. Thanks!
    - ed_elliott_asc 5y ago
      They will get more value from the extra data they collect on people and basket data than from the extra % of fraud that will inevitably happen.
siscia 5y ago
Here in Italy it is been a thing for at the very least 10 years. There is a sample system that every once in a while it ask an employee to check that you enter everything correctly. I guess that if you repeatedly make conveniently expensive “mistakes” there will be repercussions, but never experienced any issue. Even though, it happens that I made small mistakes.

callahad 5y ago

> So you can bring your own tote bags and fill them as you go, then at the end just...pay? Exactly. It's become more or less a standard option in the UK, with most larger supermarkets even offering a wall of handheld scanners that clip onto your cart if you don't want to use your phone. Still strikes me as weird, but that's probably just me getting old. Not sure how they deal with fraud.

Closi 5y ago
> Not sure how they deal with fraud. When you scan the QR code at the end it will usually tell you just to pay, but sometimes it will ask you to wait for an attendant to check that you have scanned everything correctly. Assuming everything was accurate, it then updates a ‘confidence’ score in the background for you - and if you always scan everything correctly the checks quickly become less frequent / almost non-existent. If you always scan everything wrong, the attendants will be asked to check it every time.
- callahad 5y ago
  Ah, hence the requirement of joining the loyalty programme -- lets them track scores even when using a store-provided scanner. Makes sense. Thanks!
  - ed_elliott_asc 5y ago
    They will get more value from the extra data they collect on people and basket data than from the extra % of fraud that will inevitably happen.

siscia 5y ago

Here in Italy it is been a thing for at the very least 10 years. There is a sample system that every once in a while it ask an employee to check that you enter everything correctly. I guess that if you repeatedly make conveniently expensive “mistakes” there will be repercussions, but never experienced any issue. Even though, it happens that I made small mistakes.