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I watched a ton of the earlier Marvel films including the first two avengers movies and you can call me closed-minded all you like it doesn't change the fact th

by mdoms 5y ago

I watched a ton of the earlier Marvel films including the first two avengers movies and you can call me closed-minded all you like it doesn't change the fact that they are mostly the same. I no longer watch that dreck.

someperson 5y ago
After the second Avenger's movie (Age of Ultron) I found the quality seemed to increase and became fresher and less repetitive (Guardian's of the Galaxy, Thor Ragnarok, Spider-Man Homecoming). But still if you didn't like the first 8 movies, you probably won't like the next 14 movies. But I still highly recommend Thor Ragnarok. Even as a standalone movie. Especially if you didn't like the first two Thor movies.
- mdoms 5y ago
  Thanks for the recommendation but I will absolutely not be watching anymore Disney dreck.
- blfr 5y ago
  Thor Ragnarok is one of the few capeshit movies I have seen and it was pretty bad. The entire dialogue is written around forced oneliners from a minute into the opening scene. Guardians of the Galaxy was OK but nothing to write home about or even make me remember to watch the sequel(s?). All of them are a steep drop in quality from The Dark Knight and there certainly isn't enough material there for twenty something 3hr films and half a dozen TV shows. Just like The Empire Strikes Back is a legitimately great movie while everything else Star Wars themed asymptotically approaches zero. The whole idea of world building with dozens of movies is a scourge on story telling and a complete dead end imho.
  - gilbetron 5y ago
    Ragnarok is one of my favorite movies of all time, as I found it unique, mesmerizing, and incredibly re-watchable. Great comedy, great drama, great action, great world building. The Dark Knight and the rest of its trilogy are just so ... blah. I just re-watched the 3rd and still find it so tepid and uninspired. I mean, Bane is kinda cool, but the rest is just bad. The story was insipid and hacked. The multi movie story and world building is the best thing that has happened in cinema in a long time. So you and I apparently have quite different tastes.
TulliusCicero 5y ago
The earlier ones are the most same-y. For example, the three MCU tv shows this year all have radically different tones.
- someperson 5y ago
  Just to clarify, there has been four MCU TV shows this year so far: Wandavision (great), Loki (great), Falcon and the Winter Soldier (terrible), and What If (good and sometimes great). All four are made by Marvel Studios (not Marvel Television like Daredevil and Agents of Shield) with actual Marvel actors and firmly take place in the MCU. It's worth checking out What If. If you don't like the show, I still recommend watching the fourth episode (Dr Strange).
yawaramin 5y ago
Sure, everyone has different tastes. In my opinion Thor Ragnarok and the two latter Avengers movies (Infinity War and Endgame) are worth a watch even for non-hardcore fans.
- dagw 5y ago
  Avengers movies (Infinity War and Endgame) are worth a watch even for non-hardcore fans. While Infinity War can work as an almost standalone movie, if there ever was a movie made for the hardcore fans, it's Endgame. Unless you've absorbed all the lore that came before, 80% of the call-backs and references that the whole movie is built on won't mean anything to you. I mean the scene in the climax the all the fans lose their shit over and considers the most powerful and pivotal scene in the movie is a character picking up a weapon and saying a word. Nothing within that movie gives any indication as to why any of that is a Really Big Deal.
hawski 5y ago
For me it is an example of superhero inflation. After the third time a city is rampaged you stop to care. They introduce more and more powerful characters to use them in almost medieval battles. I would like to see WWI or WWII tactics super hero movie, but for now I am on a diet and just don't care.

by mdoms 5y ago

someperson 5y ago

After the second Avenger's movie (Age of Ultron) I found the quality seemed to increase and became fresher and less repetitive (Guardian's of the Galaxy, Thor Ragnarok, Spider-Man Homecoming). But still if you didn't like the first 8 movies, you probably won't like the next 14 movies. But I still highly recommend Thor Ragnarok. Even as a standalone movie. Especially if you didn't like the first two Thor movies.

mdoms 5y ago
Thanks for the recommendation but I will absolutely not be watching anymore Disney dreck.
blfr 5y ago
Thor Ragnarok is one of the few capeshit movies I have seen and it was pretty bad. The entire dialogue is written around forced oneliners from a minute into the opening scene. Guardians of the Galaxy was OK but nothing to write home about or even make me remember to watch the sequel(s?). All of them are a steep drop in quality from The Dark Knight and there certainly isn't enough material there for twenty something 3hr films and half a dozen TV shows. Just like The Empire Strikes Back is a legitimately great movie while everything else Star Wars themed asymptotically approaches zero. The whole idea of world building with dozens of movies is a scourge on story telling and a complete dead end imho.
- gilbetron 5y ago
  Ragnarok is one of my favorite movies of all time, as I found it unique, mesmerizing, and incredibly re-watchable. Great comedy, great drama, great action, great world building. The Dark Knight and the rest of its trilogy are just so ... blah. I just re-watched the 3rd and still find it so tepid and uninspired. I mean, Bane is kinda cool, but the rest is just bad. The story was insipid and hacked. The multi movie story and world building is the best thing that has happened in cinema in a long time. So you and I apparently have quite different tastes.

TulliusCicero 5y ago

The earlier ones are the most same-y. For example, the three MCU tv shows this year all have radically different tones.

someperson 5y ago
Just to clarify, there has been four MCU TV shows this year so far: Wandavision (great), Loki (great), Falcon and the Winter Soldier (terrible), and What If (good and sometimes great). All four are made by Marvel Studios (not Marvel Television like Daredevil and Agents of Shield) with actual Marvel actors and firmly take place in the MCU. It's worth checking out What If. If you don't like the show, I still recommend watching the fourth episode (Dr Strange).

yawaramin 5y ago

Sure, everyone has different tastes. In my opinion Thor Ragnarok and the two latter Avengers movies (Infinity War and Endgame) are worth a watch even for non-hardcore fans.

dagw 5y ago
Avengers movies (Infinity War and Endgame) are worth a watch even for non-hardcore fans. While Infinity War can work as an almost standalone movie, if there ever was a movie made for the hardcore fans, it's Endgame. Unless you've absorbed all the lore that came before, 80% of the call-backs and references that the whole movie is built on won't mean anything to you. I mean the scene in the climax the all the fans lose their shit over and considers the most powerful and pivotal scene in the movie is a character picking up a weapon and saying a word. Nothing within that movie gives any indication as to why any of that is a Really Big Deal.

hawski 5y ago

For me it is an example of superhero inflation. After the third time a city is rampaged you stop to care. They introduce more and more powerful characters to use them in almost medieval battles. I would like to see WWI or WWII tactics super hero movie, but for now I am on a diet and just don't care.