> But it always seemed as a man, women basically gave you +2 in attractiveness just for having the confidence to go up and introduce yourself. In my experience

> But it always seemed as a man, women basically gave you +2 in attractiveness just for having the confidence to go up and introduce yourself. In my experience, you are 110% correct. I first saw my wife giving a speech and remembered her name. Two weeks later, I went up and introduced myself, with "Hello, <name>, my name is <ghoward>. Thank you for your [speech] about <thing>." There are a few interesting things about what she noticed. First, she didn't really notice that I got "<thing>" wrong. (I mixed her speech up with another person's.) Second, the reason she didn't notice is because all she noticed was that I remembered her name! And finally, as we were preparing to get married, many guys in our community got up in arms about how the community "superstar" was marrying me, someone known to be less attractive. My wife says all of the time that she chose me simply because I actually introduced myself and (later) asked her on a date. Though all of that doesn't explain how she still finds me attractive, especially since she now knows I'm not that confident after all...