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Here’s the convo that got him banned. https://imgur.com/a/yPnWGXp?utm_source=thenewstack&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=platform https://imgur.com/a/yPnWGXp?u

Here’s the convo that got him banned. https://imgur.com/a/yPnWGXp?utm_source=thenewstack&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=platform https://imgur.com/a/yPnWGXp?utm_source=thenewstack&utm_mediu... Other guy was just trying to understand how something works and troll activates enourmous passive aggressive defense mechanism because he doesn’t like being disagreed with

sdevonoes 5y ago
Someone should ban Linus Torvalds then. C'mon we are adults: we resolve things by talking, not by calling the @admins. And based on the imgur you posted, I think it all started with Tim's message at 11:00 am (just after Peter's message at 10:58 am): Peter got "clicked" by Tim.
- johnwheeler 5y ago
  At least Torvalds doesn’t waste people’s’ time and just tells them to fuck off. That’s not good, but better than the shitty childish behavior in that slack. And while I think no one should be mean to anyone in general, chances are if you’re incessantly arguing with Torvalds about something Linux, youre wrong
- phnofive 5y ago
  I don't think he'd sign on to a CoC in the first place.
- ctvo 5y ago
  There was no talking or discussion. It was one person being mean spirited and childish for their own amusement at the expense of others. At some point in this thread you defend it as some sort of American cultural thing -- it's not. It's universal to be respectful to others. You're not at a bar, you're not with your friends. Don't Be a Dick. A lot of us grew up in IRC, and this behavior existed then, but hey, you're not anonymous anymore. The world / internet has moved on. Follow along (or face the consequences. I wouldn't work with Peter if you doubled my salary. I would actively avoid Peter in any technical setting). What seemed to trigger Peter is someone who knows something much much more deeply than he does. He tried to initially engage, and quickly found himself out of his depth, and reverted to being childish. This is why you wouldn't want to work with Peter. That level of insecurity is taxing on a team.
  - MikeDelta 5y ago
    Interesting question of character: "what do you do when around people that know more than you do?" a) learn from them b) behave as a child c) ...
  - terracottage 5y ago
    Funny. People being childish and mean spirited for their own petty complexes is how I would describe the response. They couldn't just let it slide. The idea that intent doesn't matter, and the most hysterical reaction should be validated, is a recipe for feedback loops of drama and cluster B. Who raised these children? How do they function in the real world, if their response to some snark is to set up a massive campaign to discredit the person responsible and ban them from a community? This is a whole kitchen of pots calling the kettle black. Luckily this is only about Go. It could've been about a programming language with a future, taste or any good ideas whatsoever. That would've been a shame.
skneko 5y ago
Geez I feel bad for the guy asking the question... it was an interesting topic and he was basically ignored. I was expecting better from an "official" Slack.
rad_gruchalski 5y ago
> Here’s the convo that got him banned. Rightly so by looking at this “conversation”.
France_is_bacon 5y ago
I don't see why the guy was banned. It wasn't that bad, I expected a lot worse. To me, it just seemed like he was being a little silly, maybe trying to put a little levity in the conversation. Additionally, I think bans should be quiet. This really sucks that he was called out and it seems like it is being published everywhere, and could effect his livelihood. It's like on reddit, that guy who was a teacher and was an expert on crows and ravens and such. His name was known. And he got called out for "cheating" which means that he had an alternate account to upvote his original comments. Yet when reddit started, the founders did the exact same thing. But, that is beside the point. They could have just sent a private message to him and let him know that he couldn't post anymore. Or just a warning. As he was one of the most well-known people on reddit at that time. But they accused him of cheating and that couldn't help his career. I know there's the whole argument that you have to watch your words, but this call-out culture sucks, and doesn't allow room for anyone to make a mistake, and as a result, can wreck careers and income. And, to me, it was especially bad on the reddit case, because everyone else is completely anonymous on reddit and can say what they want and not be known, but he was actually trying to add to the conversation, and did, substantially. Except for that one time. Everyone loved the guy. Oh well. Sign of the times, I guess. The solution, of course, is to create your own community, and write your own code of conduct.

sdevonoes 5y ago

Someone should ban Linus Torvalds then. C'mon we are adults: we resolve things by talking, not by calling the @admins. And based on the imgur you posted, I think it all started with Tim's message at 11:00 am (just after Peter's message at 10:58 am): Peter got "clicked" by Tim.

johnwheeler 5y ago
At least Torvalds doesn’t waste people’s’ time and just tells them to fuck off. That’s not good, but better than the shitty childish behavior in that slack. And while I think no one should be mean to anyone in general, chances are if you’re incessantly arguing with Torvalds about something Linux, youre wrong
phnofive 5y ago
I don't think he'd sign on to a CoC in the first place.
ctvo 5y ago
There was no talking or discussion. It was one person being mean spirited and childish for their own amusement at the expense of others. At some point in this thread you defend it as some sort of American cultural thing -- it's not. It's universal to be respectful to others. You're not at a bar, you're not with your friends. Don't Be a Dick. A lot of us grew up in IRC, and this behavior existed then, but hey, you're not anonymous anymore. The world / internet has moved on. Follow along (or face the consequences. I wouldn't work with Peter if you doubled my salary. I would actively avoid Peter in any technical setting). What seemed to trigger Peter is someone who knows something much much more deeply than he does. He tried to initially engage, and quickly found himself out of his depth, and reverted to being childish. This is why you wouldn't want to work with Peter. That level of insecurity is taxing on a team.
- MikeDelta 5y ago
  Interesting question of character: "what do you do when around people that know more than you do?" a) learn from them b) behave as a child c) ...
- terracottage 5y ago
  Funny. People being childish and mean spirited for their own petty complexes is how I would describe the response. They couldn't just let it slide. The idea that intent doesn't matter, and the most hysterical reaction should be validated, is a recipe for feedback loops of drama and cluster B. Who raised these children? How do they function in the real world, if their response to some snark is to set up a massive campaign to discredit the person responsible and ban them from a community? This is a whole kitchen of pots calling the kettle black. Luckily this is only about Go. It could've been about a programming language with a future, taste or any good ideas whatsoever. That would've been a shame.

skneko 5y ago

Geez I feel bad for the guy asking the question... it was an interesting topic and he was basically ignored. I was expecting better from an "official" Slack.

rad_gruchalski 5y ago

> Here’s the convo that got him banned. Rightly so by looking at this “conversation”.

France_is_bacon 5y ago

I don't see why the guy was banned. It wasn't that bad, I expected a lot worse. To me, it just seemed like he was being a little silly, maybe trying to put a little levity in the conversation. Additionally, I think bans should be quiet. This really sucks that he was called out and it seems like it is being published everywhere, and could effect his livelihood. It's like on reddit, that guy who was a teacher and was an expert on crows and ravens and such. His name was known. And he got called out for "cheating" which means that he had an alternate account to upvote his original comments. Yet when reddit started, the founders did the exact same thing. But, that is beside the point. They could have just sent a private message to him and let him know that he couldn't post anymore. Or just a warning. As he was one of the most well-known people on reddit at that time. But they accused him of cheating and that couldn't help his career. I know there's the whole argument that you have to watch your words, but this call-out culture sucks, and doesn't allow room for anyone to make a mistake, and as a result, can wreck careers and income. And, to me, it was especially bad on the reddit case, because everyone else is completely anonymous on reddit and can say what they want and not be known, but he was actually trying to add to the conversation, and did, substantially. Except for that one time. Everyone loved the guy. Oh well. Sign of the times, I guess. The solution, of course, is to create your own community, and write your own code of conduct.