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Hearing the Brrrt of a flying gattling gun must be pretty demoralising for enemy troops though. It doesn't necessarily need to be highly accurate.

rualca 5y ago
> Hearing the Brrrt of a flying gattling gun must be pretty demoralising for enemy troops though. I guess that OP's point is that the AC130 not only has two Gatling guns but also a 40mm canon and a 105mm Howitzer. Also, the AC130 can loiter longer, and doesn't require fly-bys to even be able to target. It just does pylon turns while showering a target with everything it has. Given the alternatives, people have to ask what does the A-10 bring to the table, and the answer is hard to come by.
- nobodyandproud 5y ago
  The AC-130 seems to be a low flyer as well (not like the a-10, but still), so mostly runs night missions and with other planes flying as support? I am not an expert at this stuff.
- masklinn 5y ago
  > Given the alternatives, people have to ask what does the A-10 bring to the table, and the answer is hard to come by. Gets on target faster, is much cheaper, doesn't need half a brigade to crew, and can take a lot more punishment (especially compared to the barely armored AC130J).
- dogma1138 5y ago
  The AC130 no longer has a Gatling gun, or any mutli-barrel gun for that matter as the Spooky/II and Specter variants have been retired. The Ghostrider / Stinger II variants which are in service today have 1 30mm bushmaster auto cannon, 1 howitzer and a bunch of guided munitions. The recent variants have been criticized for not being able to provide the same level of air support as the older variants or the A-10 in built up areas or for danger close missions. They lack the volume of fire needed to effectively suppress enemy infantry as the 30mm bushmaster has a rate of fire of only about 100 rpm and the next thing in line is either a 105mm howitzer or a hellfire missile/SDB which might be too high profile for many engagements. And most importantly unlike the A-10 the air force isn’t willing to employ the AC-130 in anything that even comes close to a denied air space so if the baddies have anything larger than a Dushka good luck…
BariumBlue 5y ago
Literally anything coming to kill you from the air is going to be demoralizing. I respect the concept of "the bigger boom" (the concept being that the person with the larger/scarier gun feels like they're winning, and the inverse that if the opponent has the larger/scarier gun you feel like you're losing), but I don't think we should rely on frightening the enemy into submission.
- spoonjim 5y ago
  Also with the religiously motivated enemy, they’re not as afraid of death as a professional soldier.
  - loonster 5y ago
    Among many comabt infantry marines I knew, more were afraid of being a coward than dying. I would imagine it would be similar for soldiers.
- loonster 5y ago
  Bullshit. Aircraft that can be seen are much scarier to the enemy. The enemy never came out to play when we had helicopters on station. Planes high in the sky didn't stop attacks until they dropped bombs. The same concept can be seen with infantry and crowd control. The best way to keep a crowd away is to fix bayonets.

rualca 5y ago

> Hearing the Brrrt of a flying gattling gun must be pretty demoralising for enemy troops though. I guess that OP's point is that the AC130 not only has two Gatling guns but also a 40mm canon and a 105mm Howitzer. Also, the AC130 can loiter longer, and doesn't require fly-bys to even be able to target. It just does pylon turns while showering a target with everything it has. Given the alternatives, people have to ask what does the A-10 bring to the table, and the answer is hard to come by.

nobodyandproud 5y ago
The AC-130 seems to be a low flyer as well (not like the a-10, but still), so mostly runs night missions and with other planes flying as support? I am not an expert at this stuff.
masklinn 5y ago
> Given the alternatives, people have to ask what does the A-10 bring to the table, and the answer is hard to come by. Gets on target faster, is much cheaper, doesn't need half a brigade to crew, and can take a lot more punishment (especially compared to the barely armored AC130J).
dogma1138 5y ago
The AC130 no longer has a Gatling gun, or any mutli-barrel gun for that matter as the Spooky/II and Specter variants have been retired. The Ghostrider / Stinger II variants which are in service today have 1 30mm bushmaster auto cannon, 1 howitzer and a bunch of guided munitions. The recent variants have been criticized for not being able to provide the same level of air support as the older variants or the A-10 in built up areas or for danger close missions. They lack the volume of fire needed to effectively suppress enemy infantry as the 30mm bushmaster has a rate of fire of only about 100 rpm and the next thing in line is either a 105mm howitzer or a hellfire missile/SDB which might be too high profile for many engagements. And most importantly unlike the A-10 the air force isn’t willing to employ the AC-130 in anything that even comes close to a denied air space so if the baddies have anything larger than a Dushka good luck…

BariumBlue 5y ago

Literally anything coming to kill you from the air is going to be demoralizing. I respect the concept of "the bigger boom" (the concept being that the person with the larger/scarier gun feels like they're winning, and the inverse that if the opponent has the larger/scarier gun you feel like you're losing), but I don't think we should rely on frightening the enemy into submission.

spoonjim 5y ago
Also with the religiously motivated enemy, they’re not as afraid of death as a professional soldier.
- loonster 5y ago
  Among many comabt infantry marines I knew, more were afraid of being a coward than dying. I would imagine it would be similar for soldiers.
loonster 5y ago
Bullshit. Aircraft that can be seen are much scarier to the enemy. The enemy never came out to play when we had helicopters on station. Planes high in the sky didn't stop attacks until they dropped bombs. The same concept can be seen with infantry and crowd control. The best way to keep a crowd away is to fix bayonets.