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Another naive outrage :-) Obviously the US, like any other country, was not going to let a "gift" of 50B to France, if they could get these 50B for themselves.

Another naive outrage :-) Obviously the US, like any other country, was not going to let a "gift" of 50B to France, if they could get these 50B for themselves. It's not friends, allies or partners, it's just business. France, like Europe shall play both cards with China and the US. There is more to win than to take a side, especially if that side might lose at some point

mytailorisrich 5y ago
This is a big contract, but it's a red herring to focus on it, IMHO. The US have played in secret against France in order to isolate it and to destroy its strategy in the region. This is actively hostile action and that's what France is angry about.
- WinstonSmith84 5y ago
  > The US have played in secret against France in order to isolate it and to destroy its strategy in the region Unless proven otherwise, this is a conspiracy theory. What are the reasons to destroy France's strategy in the region? It's not like France had any strategy in the region anyway, rather they have business interest (50B lost ...), and well, they care about their islands - and not losing them. But let be honest, neither China, nor Australia nor the US is going to mount a military invasion against any of these islands!.. The threat for France is actually from within, as shown very well in New Caledonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_New_Caledonian_independence_referendum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_New_Caledonian_independen...). And New Caledonia might not be alone...
  - mytailorisrich 5y ago
    This isn't conspiracy theory. I'm stating what the public account of what happened is and, from the French's reaction, I can believe it is the reality.
  - mySubSub 5y ago
    It's no conspiracy theory, the US and the UK have played secretly behind France's back to close the deal.
mySubSub 5y ago
Systematically undermining other countries' defense industry is not only "business", it's a full-fledged economical war waged by the US.

mytailorisrich 5y ago

This is a big contract, but it's a red herring to focus on it, IMHO. The US have played in secret against France in order to isolate it and to destroy its strategy in the region. This is actively hostile action and that's what France is angry about.

WinstonSmith84 5y ago
> The US have played in secret against France in order to isolate it and to destroy its strategy in the region Unless proven otherwise, this is a conspiracy theory. What are the reasons to destroy France's strategy in the region? It's not like France had any strategy in the region anyway, rather they have business interest (50B lost ...), and well, they care about their islands - and not losing them. But let be honest, neither China, nor Australia nor the US is going to mount a military invasion against any of these islands!.. The threat for France is actually from within, as shown very well in New Caledonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_New_Caledonian_independence_referendum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_New_Caledonian_independen...). And New Caledonia might not be alone...
- mytailorisrich 5y ago
  This isn't conspiracy theory. I'm stating what the public account of what happened is and, from the French's reaction, I can believe it is the reality.
- mySubSub 5y ago
  It's no conspiracy theory, the US and the UK have played secretly behind France's back to close the deal.

mySubSub 5y ago

Systematically undermining other countries' defense industry is not only "business", it's a full-fledged economical war waged by the US.