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>If we have more vaccinated than ever, but there are more cases and deaths than ever, how does it therefore follow that it is “undeniable” that the vaccines are
by Rebelgecko 5y ago
>If we have more vaccinated than ever, but there are more cases and deaths than ever, how does it therefore follow that it is “undeniable” that the vaccines are doing exactly what we want?
In my area, most people are vaccinated. If the vaccine wasn't very effective, you'd expect that most people dying of COVID would be vaccinated. In reality, something like 98% of deaths are among the unvaccinated
- Izkata 5y agoThat stat comes from a report that came out in May, using data from before that point. Y'know, back when percent vaccinated was still pretty low... I vaguely recall seeing it had dropped to 95% a month or two ago, but that was still counting from the beginning of the year and not weighting by percent vaccinated.
- Rebelgecko 5y agoI don't know what report you're referring to, I'm looking at the daily stats released today for my county. Since September 1, there have been 435 COVID deaths. 70% of people in my county are vaccinated, so you'd expect that if vaccines were useless then 304 of those deaths would be amongst fully vaccinated people. But the real number is actually 81. However the 81 includes anyone who died with an active COVID infection, so I wouldn't be surprised if the real number was much lower. But assuming that 81 is it, it looks like the effect is more like a ~75% reduction in death odds
- Izkata 5y agoThat fits more with numbers I've seen from several countries (UK, Israel, and I think Germany). I was referring to the US in my last comment, it's the only one I'd seen so far that was so skewed to >95%.