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I wish more people would self host their instance in the fediverse. Your posts can be traced back to you, your feed is chronological and moderation is back in

by tg180 5y ago

I wish more people would self host their instance in the fediverse. Your posts can be traced back to you, your feed is chronological and moderation is back in your hands. Propaganda is a HUGE issue, and I’m sure anyone won’t be able to spot every case of misinformation. But everything could be back in your hands. Nobody can _FORCE_ content on you, you are in control of your own experience. https://joinmastodon.org https://joinmastodon.org https://pixelfed.org https://pixelfed.org https://pleroma.social https://pleroma.social

fakedang 5y ago
Why do devs keep complaining or lamenting the status quo and ask every non-tech fellow to "just self-host your instance on the fediverse"? Is it as easy to get an FB like functionality with a click of a button? If not, that isn't going to work. Average Joe Schmoe isn't going to just self-host an instance, even if he knew how to do so. Also, if there is a competing service to Facebook, it better have everything that Facebook offers, except for the recommended and sponsored content. That includes most importantly being able to connect with old friends, acquaintances and contacts seamlessly. Does Mastodon allow for all that with just a click of a button? If not, then programmers should just stop whining about how they wish people were more like them and instead actually build something that can be used by Joe Schmoe. I've tried various Mastodon clients before. I couldn't figure much out of how to use them in 5 minutes and the UI was crap so I just ditched them. Even if it were a good experience, the fact that I have to go through hoops to set up an instance, then get all my friends from Facebook or Whatsapp or whatever to join me in using it, is enough deterrent that makes me not bother with it (and no, we don't use Facebook either). One app that seems to be getting this concept right, but not fully there yet, is Telegram.
nobody9999 5y ago
>I wish more people would self host their instance in the fediverse. I wish that too. And I even upvoted you for that. Unfortunately, there are significant hurdles/barriers to entry for most folks. First among those are asymmetric internet links. It's great that I can stream HD video while pulling down well-seeded torrents, while I apply updates to a dozen VMs without an issue. But I can't support (and I don't have the static IPs) more than a few connections to my systems. That's an important, and often overlooked, driver towards greater centralization. My current plan gives me (based on speed test data) ~225Mb/s download and ~12Mb/s upload. Obviously (multi)Gb/sec symmetric connections would be ideal, as well as easily supported by FTTP. If enough folks have those, there's no shortage of federated, self-hosted alternatives out there -- as you helpfully pointed out. An easily installed, self-hosted platform, combined with the requisite consumer bandwidth could certainly provide enough leverage to move folks off Facebook, et al. Sadly, I won't hold my breath.

by tg180 5y ago

fakedang 5y ago

Why do devs keep complaining or lamenting the status quo and ask every non-tech fellow to "just self-host your instance on the fediverse"? Is it as easy to get an FB like functionality with a click of a button? If not, that isn't going to work. Average Joe Schmoe isn't going to just self-host an instance, even if he knew how to do so. Also, if there is a competing service to Facebook, it better have everything that Facebook offers, except for the recommended and sponsored content. That includes most importantly being able to connect with old friends, acquaintances and contacts seamlessly. Does Mastodon allow for all that with just a click of a button? If not, then programmers should just stop whining about how they wish people were more like them and instead actually build something that can be used by Joe Schmoe. I've tried various Mastodon clients before. I couldn't figure much out of how to use them in 5 minutes and the UI was crap so I just ditched them. Even if it were a good experience, the fact that I have to go through hoops to set up an instance, then get all my friends from Facebook or Whatsapp or whatever to join me in using it, is enough deterrent that makes me not bother with it (and no, we don't use Facebook either). One app that seems to be getting this concept right, but not fully there yet, is Telegram.

nobody9999 5y ago

>I wish more people would self host their instance in the fediverse. I wish that too. And I even upvoted you for that. Unfortunately, there are significant hurdles/barriers to entry for most folks. First among those are asymmetric internet links. It's great that I can stream HD video while pulling down well-seeded torrents, while I apply updates to a dozen VMs without an issue. But I can't support (and I don't have the static IPs) more than a few connections to my systems. That's an important, and often overlooked, driver towards greater centralization. My current plan gives me (based on speed test data) ~225Mb/s download and ~12Mb/s upload. Obviously (multi)Gb/sec symmetric connections would be ideal, as well as easily supported by FTTP. If enough folks have those, there's no shortage of federated, self-hosted alternatives out there -- as you helpfully pointed out. An easily installed, self-hosted platform, combined with the requisite consumer bandwidth could certainly provide enough leverage to move folks off Facebook, et al. Sadly, I won't hold my breath.