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Recommendation on YouTube is somewhat good but search sucks. When you search for something it throws at you random garbage on top of the thing you are actually

Recommendation on YouTube is somewhat good but search sucks. When you search for something it throws at you random garbage on top of the thing you are actually looking for, think AltaVista vs Google yes Google you own the YouTube. There is no ability to search for videos in playlists and there is no ability to search videos' comments. Also they say >borderline content—that is content that comes close to, but doesn’t quite violate our Community Guidelines. TOS can not treat anything as "borderline"; borderline is akin to robbing a bank and then telling a judge your crime was "borderline" because you were out of money and you needed to get your financial situation straight by robbing a bank. My point is TOS and Law are binary either something is allowed or forbidden there is no middle ground.

jedimastert 5y ago
> TOS can not treat anything as "borderline" They addressed this, I think, later in the article > With all that, why don’t we simply remove borderline content? Misinformation tends to shift and evolve rapidly, and unlike areas like terrorism or child safety, often lacks a clear consensus. Also, misinformation can vary depending on personal perspective and background. We recognize that sometimes, this means leaving up controversial or even offensive content. So we continue to heavily focus on building responsible recommendations and take meaningful steps to prevent our system from widely recommending this content. So much, in terms of moderation, what is acceptable, etc. is a constantly moving target. Even if there is an exactly right answer today, it might become an important conversation to have tomorrow
- mrkramer 5y ago
  >So much, in terms of moderation, what is acceptable, etc. is a constantly moving target. Even if there is an exactly right answer today, it might become an important conversation to have tomorrow That's wrong you can not make ad hoc decisions without any forethought only in order to please someone or something within or outside the company(organization). I will again refer to the law; law is built on concepts and premises that have foundation in morale for example look at the US constitution or any constitution in the world. 5 years ago I use to watch WW2 documentaries on YT and I regularly stumbled upon neo-Nazi content, nowadays I can barely see any but together with neo-Nazi content being removed they removed legitimate WW2 documentaries that were meant for education purposes only I suppose because some of them used Nazi symbols and/or Nazi speech footage. So 5 years ago neo-Nazi content was acceptable but today it is not?! It doesn't make sense to me. They want to be politically correct that's why they change their community guidelines and TOS non-stop.

jedimastert 5y ago

> TOS can not treat anything as "borderline" They addressed this, I think, later in the article > With all that, why don’t we simply remove borderline content? Misinformation tends to shift and evolve rapidly, and unlike areas like terrorism or child safety, often lacks a clear consensus. Also, misinformation can vary depending on personal perspective and background. We recognize that sometimes, this means leaving up controversial or even offensive content. So we continue to heavily focus on building responsible recommendations and take meaningful steps to prevent our system from widely recommending this content. So much, in terms of moderation, what is acceptable, etc. is a constantly moving target. Even if there is an exactly right answer today, it might become an important conversation to have tomorrow

mrkramer 5y ago
>So much, in terms of moderation, what is acceptable, etc. is a constantly moving target. Even if there is an exactly right answer today, it might become an important conversation to have tomorrow That's wrong you can not make ad hoc decisions without any forethought only in order to please someone or something within or outside the company(organization). I will again refer to the law; law is built on concepts and premises that have foundation in morale for example look at the US constitution or any constitution in the world. 5 years ago I use to watch WW2 documentaries on YT and I regularly stumbled upon neo-Nazi content, nowadays I can barely see any but together with neo-Nazi content being removed they removed legitimate WW2 documentaries that were meant for education purposes only I suppose because some of them used Nazi symbols and/or Nazi speech footage. So 5 years ago neo-Nazi content was acceptable but today it is not?! It doesn't make sense to me. They want to be politically correct that's why they change their community guidelines and TOS non-stop.