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It seems a day doesn't go by when another bit if negative news about FB comes out. We are our own worst enemy when this behavior is allowed.

Nasrudith 5y ago
That is what we call "pushing an agenda". It is awfully tiresome. Seriously "forced" when what they describe is gaming of the system. It is downright disingenuous and it is goddamned everywhere from media conglomerates. They always do the same goddamn thing, treat their advertisers and politicians in power with kid gloves for funds and access. But when it comes to rivals it is suddenly knives out full Jameson demanding pictures of Spiderman. I don't even like Facebook as a company and never used it but I find myself defending because it is such obvious complete bullcrap.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >That is what we call "pushing an agenda". It is awfully tiresome. Seriously "forced" when what they describe is gaming of the system. It is downright disingenuous and it is goddamned everywhere from media conglomerates. Would you expand on this? It's not at all clear to me who you believe is "pushing an agenda" or who is "gaming the system." That may very well be my own reading comprehension issue, but I'm still a bit confused. If you'd help me out, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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  - perl4ever 5y ago
    >It's not at all clear to me who you believe is "pushing an agenda" or who is "gaming the system." I can't answer for the other commenter, but presumably media companies. Gaming the system meaning lobbying the government indirectly.
  - SllX 5y ago
    Reading the parent’s comment: Gaming the system refers to the Facebook Timeline algorithm. If you’re trying to get a message out on Facebook specifically then you optimize for engagement metrics that Facebook cares about. It’s the Facebook equivalent of SEO. As for who has an agenda? Media Conglomerates. Neither e.g. the New York Times nor Fox nor other broadcasters, newspapers, magazines and other publications are neutral observers because Facebook crowds their space. Facebook is in the same market they are, and so they have an obvious and terminal bias when reporting on Facebook. And not just Facebook: you can easily observe this between different papers and broadcasters who call each other out.
- jazzyjackson 5y ago
  I don’t even know what agendaless news would look like. A newsfeed of press releases I guess. Point is, journalism starts with the premise that something objectionable is happening (otherwise, we could just enjoy the press releases and get on with life)
  - robbedpeter 5y ago
    Something notable, not objectionable. There's overlap between the two, but they're not the same.
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Nasrudith 5y ago

That is what we call "pushing an agenda". It is awfully tiresome. Seriously "forced" when what they describe is gaming of the system. It is downright disingenuous and it is goddamned everywhere from media conglomerates. They always do the same goddamn thing, treat their advertisers and politicians in power with kid gloves for funds and access. But when it comes to rivals it is suddenly knives out full Jameson demanding pictures of Spiderman. I don't even like Facebook as a company and never used it but I find myself defending because it is such obvious complete bullcrap.

nobody9999 5y ago
>That is what we call "pushing an agenda". It is awfully tiresome. Seriously "forced" when what they describe is gaming of the system. It is downright disingenuous and it is goddamned everywhere from media conglomerates. Would you expand on this? It's not at all clear to me who you believe is "pushing an agenda" or who is "gaming the system." That may very well be my own reading comprehension issue, but I'm still a bit confused. If you'd help me out, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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- perl4ever 5y ago
  >It's not at all clear to me who you believe is "pushing an agenda" or who is "gaming the system." I can't answer for the other commenter, but presumably media companies. Gaming the system meaning lobbying the government indirectly.
- SllX 5y ago
  Reading the parent’s comment: Gaming the system refers to the Facebook Timeline algorithm. If you’re trying to get a message out on Facebook specifically then you optimize for engagement metrics that Facebook cares about. It’s the Facebook equivalent of SEO. As for who has an agenda? Media Conglomerates. Neither e.g. the New York Times nor Fox nor other broadcasters, newspapers, magazines and other publications are neutral observers because Facebook crowds their space. Facebook is in the same market they are, and so they have an obvious and terminal bias when reporting on Facebook. And not just Facebook: you can easily observe this between different papers and broadcasters who call each other out.
jazzyjackson 5y ago
I don’t even know what agendaless news would look like. A newsfeed of press releases I guess. Point is, journalism starts with the premise that something objectionable is happening (otherwise, we could just enjoy the press releases and get on with life)
- robbedpeter 5y ago
  Something notable, not objectionable. There's overlap between the two, but they're not the same.
- deleted 5y ago
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