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I think New Zealand is rather famous for it's COVID response and recovery. Denmark and Finland also had great responses. That said, I'm in the US and not well

by ajford 5y ago

I think New Zealand is rather famous for it's COVID response and recovery. Denmark and Finland also had great responses. That said, I'm in the US and not well equipped to speak to their responses, having not experienced them first hand.

alibarber 5y ago
Finland’s was quite light touch, apart from the start where bars had to shut along with schools and WFH, ‘lockdown’ here was not in the same league as say the UK or France. There never were and are not now enforceable mask mandates and the more empty parts of the country have been restriction free for most of the year. Maybe it was luck, a sparse population or of course the often repeated ‘everyone always does what they’re told’ (hmmm). Also it started off well but things have become quite fragmented recently (different agencies issuing rules about different things at different times, in different regions, much to the dismay of anyone trying to plan anything). In short, whilst interesting, there’s not really any useful comparison that you can make between the US and Finland in my opinion.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 5y ago
  Both New Zealand and Finland have very low population density. UK and France have 10 times more people per square mile.
  - maxerickson 5y ago
    The density people live at isn't "very low", they mostly live in towns and cities.
    - alibarber 5y ago
      Objectively the population density of Helsinki [1] is half that of London [2] - and according to google, a tenth of that of Paris. Subjectively after living in both Helsinki and London it feels like Helsinki is even less crowded. I would say that there are fewer people who commute in to commercial areas from outside of the city than in London, and the commercial areas such as offices are generally a lot less dense, newer, and more spread out. [1] https://www.hel.fi/hel2/tietokeskus/julkaisut/pdf/19_06_14_HKI-taskutilasto2019_eng_w.pdf https://www.hel.fi/hel2/tietokeskus/julkaisut/pdf/19_06_14_H... [2] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/bulletins/annualmidyearpopulationestimates/mid2019 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populati...
      - maxerickson 5y ago
        Yeah, it's still not 'very low'. The population density of the town I live in, which is not 'very low', is ~400 per square km. The county, which is denser than most of the area of the US, is 12 per square km.

by ajford 5y ago

alibarber 5y ago

Finland’s was quite light touch, apart from the start where bars had to shut along with schools and WFH, ‘lockdown’ here was not in the same league as say the UK or France. There never were and are not now enforceable mask mandates and the more empty parts of the country have been restriction free for most of the year. Maybe it was luck, a sparse population or of course the often repeated ‘everyone always does what they’re told’ (hmmm). Also it started off well but things have become quite fragmented recently (different agencies issuing rules about different things at different times, in different regions, much to the dismay of anyone trying to plan anything). In short, whilst interesting, there’s not really any useful comparison that you can make between the US and Finland in my opinion.

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 5y ago
Both New Zealand and Finland have very low population density. UK and France have 10 times more people per square mile.
- maxerickson 5y ago
  The density people live at isn't "very low", they mostly live in towns and cities.
  - alibarber 5y ago
    Objectively the population density of Helsinki [1] is half that of London [2] - and according to google, a tenth of that of Paris. Subjectively after living in both Helsinki and London it feels like Helsinki is even less crowded. I would say that there are fewer people who commute in to commercial areas from outside of the city than in London, and the commercial areas such as offices are generally a lot less dense, newer, and more spread out. [1] https://www.hel.fi/hel2/tietokeskus/julkaisut/pdf/19_06_14_HKI-taskutilasto2019_eng_w.pdf https://www.hel.fi/hel2/tietokeskus/julkaisut/pdf/19_06_14_H... [2] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/bulletins/annualmidyearpopulationestimates/mid2019 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populati...
    - maxerickson 5y ago
      Yeah, it's still not 'very low'. The population density of the town I live in, which is not 'very low', is ~400 per square km. The county, which is denser than most of the area of the US, is 12 per square km.