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I mean we deliberately took a wrecking ball to our supply chain (destroying folks livelihood along the way) for a year and a half. You can’t just pay people to

I mean we deliberately took a wrecking ball to our supply chain (destroying folks livelihood along the way) for a year and a half. You can’t just pay people to stay home... those people were doing something “essential” to somebody and they were all forced to close or dramatically alter their business. All the people not producing things no longer doing so is gonna have a huge impact on literally everything. Dunno how anybody could be surprised at the outcome; people warned of exactly this happening back in March of 2020 but they were harassed, mocked, shamed and yelled at. The second and third order effects from the last year and a half will no doubt have more of a negative public health impact than covid ever did.

mrtranscendence 5y ago
But neither the automobile shortage nor the chip shortage that caused it were themselves caused by lockdown restrictions. This would have happened anyway. > The second and third order effects from the last year and a half will no doubt have more of a negative public health impact than covid ever did. Really? COVID killed millions and made millions more very sick. Meanwhile industrial economies are doing overall quite well despite lockdowns and some labor shortages.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  > But neither the automobile shortage nor the chip shortage that caused it were themselves caused by lockdown restrictions. This would have happened anyway. What would have caused them other than the lockdowns?
  - puetzk 5y ago
    The texas blackout was a major factor - it hit an NXP plant that didn't manage to complete an orderly shutdown in time, and caused enough equipment damage that they couldn't get operating again at all for a month, and at reduced capacity for a long time after. https://www.statesman.com/story/business/2021/03/12/nxp-could-lose-100-million-due-weather-shutdown-austin-plants/4664621001/ https://www.statesman.com/story/business/2021/03/12/nxp-coul... There was also a Samsung plant similarly affected, which I think didn't really get back operational until the end of March.
jrochkind1 5y ago
Is "we" the USA? I don't think those chips are made in the USA, do you think USA work restrictions resulted in the chip shortage somehow anyhow? I don't totally understand why foreign chip production couldn't ramp up quicker. But I don't think it's related to USA "lockdown"... but maybe I'm missing it?

mrtranscendence 5y ago

But neither the automobile shortage nor the chip shortage that caused it were themselves caused by lockdown restrictions. This would have happened anyway. > The second and third order effects from the last year and a half will no doubt have more of a negative public health impact than covid ever did. Really? COVID killed millions and made millions more very sick. Meanwhile industrial economies are doing overall quite well despite lockdowns and some labor shortages.

josephcsible 5y ago
> But neither the automobile shortage nor the chip shortage that caused it were themselves caused by lockdown restrictions. This would have happened anyway. What would have caused them other than the lockdowns?
- puetzk 5y ago
  The texas blackout was a major factor - it hit an NXP plant that didn't manage to complete an orderly shutdown in time, and caused enough equipment damage that they couldn't get operating again at all for a month, and at reduced capacity for a long time after. https://www.statesman.com/story/business/2021/03/12/nxp-could-lose-100-million-due-weather-shutdown-austin-plants/4664621001/ https://www.statesman.com/story/business/2021/03/12/nxp-coul... There was also a Samsung plant similarly affected, which I think didn't really get back operational until the end of March.

jrochkind1 5y ago

Is "we" the USA? I don't think those chips are made in the USA, do you think USA work restrictions resulted in the chip shortage somehow anyhow? I don't totally understand why foreign chip production couldn't ramp up quicker. But I don't think it's related to USA "lockdown"... but maybe I'm missing it?