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Rocket is the most promising up-and-comer I know about: https://rocket.rs/ https://rocket.rs/ It manages to provide an experience along the lines of Flask or Ex

Rocket is the most promising up-and-comer I know about: https://rocket.rs/ https://rocket.rs/ It manages to provide an experience along the lines of Flask or Express Iron and Actix are the more established but more complicated ones Edit: According to a reply, Iron is considered abandoned

agersant 5y ago
Iron is very much abandoned, I would not recommend it. I agree Actix and Rocket are the more common picks!
- brundolf 5y ago
  Got it. I knew Iron was kinda being phased out due to stuff like not having async/await, but I didn't know it had gone so far as being "abandoned".
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ggregoire 5y ago
Actix is #5 on techempower.com/benchmarks, that's impressive!
- Zababa 5y ago
  And Rocket is surprisingly slow. Is this because it's not async yet?
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  - brundolf 5y ago
    It is higher-level than actix, though it's still surprising to see it as low as it is. I'm curious what the story is there too. It is significantly higher than Express and Flask, though it's lower than raw NodeJS and PHP. I guess maybe these benchmarks only test the overhead of the framework itself, and ignore the benefits of having your business logic and middleware written in a faster language? The tests for node and PHP would pretty much only be running battle-tested native code if that's what's going on
    - tempest_ 5y ago
      Rocket prior to 0.5 was not async and thus does not really preform well in those benchmarks. 0.5 however is async and is currently in rc, when it is released I would expect it to climb up the list a little bit.
      - Zababa 5y ago
        Is there info on when the 0.5 is supposed to be released? I don't see anything on the Github except that the only issue left on the 0.5 milestone is updating the readme.
  - ggregoire 5y ago
    Some comments about it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26069195 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26069195
    - brundolf 5y ago
      Nice, good info. v0.5 (currently in RC) is the stable/async version mentioned. Excited to see the benchmark get updated for that version.
ggregoire 5y ago
Digging up the topic, I also found this new framework https://github.com/tokio-rs/axum https://github.com/tokio-rs/axum, which already seems to be popular. Sentry is rewriting some of their libs from Actix to Axum: https://github.com/getsentry/symbolicator/commit/b6ef7cb00b710add4acc46dc48d52f219b8da0f8 https://github.com/getsentry/symbolicator/commit/b6ef7cb00b7...

agersant 5y ago

Iron is very much abandoned, I would not recommend it. I agree Actix and Rocket are the more common picks!

brundolf 5y ago
Got it. I knew Iron was kinda being phased out due to stuff like not having async/await, but I didn't know it had gone so far as being "abandoned".

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ggregoire 5y ago

Actix is #5 on techempower.com/benchmarks, that's impressive!

Zababa 5y ago
And Rocket is surprisingly slow. Is this because it's not async yet?
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- brundolf 5y ago
  It is higher-level than actix, though it's still surprising to see it as low as it is. I'm curious what the story is there too. It is significantly higher than Express and Flask, though it's lower than raw NodeJS and PHP. I guess maybe these benchmarks only test the overhead of the framework itself, and ignore the benefits of having your business logic and middleware written in a faster language? The tests for node and PHP would pretty much only be running battle-tested native code if that's what's going on
  - tempest_ 5y ago
    Rocket prior to 0.5 was not async and thus does not really preform well in those benchmarks. 0.5 however is async and is currently in rc, when it is released I would expect it to climb up the list a little bit.
    - Zababa 5y ago
      Is there info on when the 0.5 is supposed to be released? I don't see anything on the Github except that the only issue left on the 0.5 milestone is updating the readme.
- ggregoire 5y ago
  Some comments about it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26069195 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26069195
  - brundolf 5y ago
    Nice, good info. v0.5 (currently in RC) is the stable/async version mentioned. Excited to see the benchmark get updated for that version.

ggregoire 5y ago

Digging up the topic, I also found this new framework https://github.com/tokio-rs/axum https://github.com/tokio-rs/axum, which already seems to be popular. Sentry is rewriting some of their libs from Actix to Axum: https://github.com/getsentry/symbolicator/commit/b6ef7cb00b710add4acc46dc48d52f219b8da0f8 https://github.com/getsentry/symbolicator/commit/b6ef7cb00b7...