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Maskless Mayor London Breed caught breaking SF health order at Tenderloin club

32 points by rkk3 5y ago

throwawayboise 5y ago
So many of these "leaders" from Fauci on down have been caught. They only wear their masks when they think the cameras are on. It's all a farce.
- mc32 5y ago
  Yes it’s amazing. Congress people before the cameras are on, they mill about freely maskless and then when the lights come on, the masks go up. It’s such a disingenuous show. And you’re getting downvoted for saying what you see. It’s like, yeah but but… but what? They’re vaccinated, I get it. But don’t put on a show… for what?
snug 5y ago
She's behind a table with her drinks, this is hardly breaking SF health order, do I need to put my mask on after every sip? Not a great look, but this is just silly.
- jljljl 5y ago
  This is pretty standard from what I’ve seen: You wear the mask when you’re walking around the restaurant or before you start eating/drinking, but you don’t mask up between sips/bites.
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825 https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825 > Don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites.
    - snug 5y ago
      October 2020
    - jljljl 5y ago
      I think the situation was a bit different pre-vaccination and mandate
- rkk3 5y ago
  > She's behind a table with her drinks, this is hardly breaking SF health order, That seems like a deliberate mis characterization. From the article, "Breed was dancing behind a table full of drinks, but was not actively drinking or eating, or wearing a face covering while singing, dancing, and posing for photos." Here is a video from the club of her dancing and singing https://twitter.com/SFMarMendoza/status/1438604391297126452 https://twitter.com/SFMarMendoza/status/1438604391297126452 > Do I need to put my mask on after every sip? Are you the mayor and instituting executive orders requiring masks indoors for the whole city?
  - snug 5y ago
    > Video Sitting behind a table where her drinks are > Are you the mayor and instituting executive orders requiring masks indoors for the whole city? No but I am okay with her executive order, I live in the city and mask up, I don't like that I have to wear a mask, but I wear it when I need to. In her situation, I don't think she is breaking any rules/laws about wearing a mask. She's only around the people that are in her party
    - rkk3 5y ago
      >> Video >Sitting behind a table where her drinks are Did you even watch it? She is singing, dancing and no not sitting down.
- rastafang 5y ago
  > Unmasked, singing, and dancing with an equally unmasked crowd, cell phone video shows Mayor London Breed inside a club in the Tenderloin on Wednesday night.
nineplay 5y ago
This sort of 'gotcha' culture is frankly more destructive than the some supposed 'cancel' culture. "The mayor of San Francisco was maskless at a club? I guess everything I thought I knew about masks was a lie!" Let the voters of SF worry about it, it doesn't mean anything to me.
- rkk3 5y ago
  > This sort of 'gotcha' culture is frankly more destructive than the some supposed 'cancel' culture. gotcha? This isn't jaywalking, she unilaterally decided to implement a citywide mask mandate as Mayor via executive order and she goes out partying and singing without one. Do you think that is setting a good example and building trust in civic institutions?
- silicon2401 5y ago
  It's possible to have more than one issue in the world at a time. Cancel culture is destructive and toxic. Gotcha culture can also be destructive and toxic at the same time.
josephcsible 5y ago
I wish that anyone caught breaking a law that they voted for, signed, or otherwise contributed to passing in an official capacity, would get 10x the punishment that everyone else would get for breaking it.
- hoopleheaded 5y ago
  This is ridiculous. Despite watching both videos on the linked page I can't actually find the footage of her but presumably she was drinking something before it was shot. I don't think anyone expects you to redon a mask in between sips.
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    > I don't think anyone expects you to redon a mask in between sips. https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825 https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825
    - hoopleheaded 5y ago
      In the graphic the diner is depicted as being finished with their meal. The text of the tweet is perhaps bad PR because the author is assuming the public will use common sense.
      - josephcsible 5y ago
        The text of the tweet literally says "Don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites." How exactly are you saying that "between bites" should be interpreted?
        hoopleheaded 5y ago
        I said the text of the tweet was bad PR. The graphic does not appear to have been designed to support that statement, however. Can you find any other public health guidance aside from this single tweet which supports the idea that you should don and doff a mask dozens of times during a meal?
TimTheTinker 5y ago
This is a concern because: (a) the legal cornerstone of a rule-of-law society is that (1) laws are the only rule enforceable by the government, and (2) those who make the laws are also subject to those laws (b) because of COVID restrictions, those in power have effectively a lot more power than normal to dictate what people can and can't do (c) lately, a lot of reports have come out about rule/law-makers not being subject to those laws. Another example is how congress men and women, as well as their staff, are not subject to the recent US vaccine mandate. Together, these developments signal that the US's rule-of-law status is not what it ought to be.
ctrlp 5y ago
Rules for thee, but not for me. Will she be reelected?
- mc32 5y ago
  Everyone with a chance to win is even worse!
  - ctrlp 5y ago
    Who else has a chance to win? Why are they worse?
ajay-b 5y ago
This brings to mind Mr. Newsome and Mrs. Pelosi doing the same thing. I wish politicians would consider the optics of their actions.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  The consequences are beyond just "optics". Either they're putting the lives of everyone around them in danger, or they're unnecessarily and unjustly imposing mandates on others under the false pretense that it's necessary to protect the lives of everyone around them.
- rkk3 5y ago
  A little different. They were hypocrite's and were not following the advice they were giving to the public. London Breed, is not following the mandate she has unilaterally imposed on SF as mayor.
b34wef 5y ago
London Breed is a dirty slut. FBI is on her ass too. It is only a matter of time before she joins her boyfriend and brother in prison. She already had to shell out $20k in ethics violation last month.
rastafang 5y ago
Why do all stories about this get flagged/dead, dang? I know that you don't like Politic-related posts or comments, but...
- dang 5y ago
  The usual reason—users are flagging them. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

32 points by rkk3 5y ago

So many of these "leaders" from Fauci on down have been caught. They only wear their masks when they think the cameras are on. It's all a farce.

mc32 5y ago
Yes it’s amazing. Congress people before the cameras are on, they mill about freely maskless and then when the lights come on, the masks go up. It’s such a disingenuous show. And you’re getting downvoted for saying what you see. It’s like, yeah but but… but what? They’re vaccinated, I get it. But don’t put on a show… for what?

snug 5y ago

She's behind a table with her drinks, this is hardly breaking SF health order, do I need to put my mask on after every sip? Not a great look, but this is just silly.

jljljl 5y ago
This is pretty standard from what I’ve seen: You wear the mask when you’re walking around the restaurant or before you start eating/drinking, but you don’t mask up between sips/bites.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825 https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825 > Don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites.
  - snug 5y ago
    October 2020
  - jljljl 5y ago
    I think the situation was a bit different pre-vaccination and mandate
rkk3 5y ago
> She's behind a table with her drinks, this is hardly breaking SF health order, That seems like a deliberate mis characterization. From the article, "Breed was dancing behind a table full of drinks, but was not actively drinking or eating, or wearing a face covering while singing, dancing, and posing for photos." Here is a video from the club of her dancing and singing https://twitter.com/SFMarMendoza/status/1438604391297126452 https://twitter.com/SFMarMendoza/status/1438604391297126452 > Do I need to put my mask on after every sip? Are you the mayor and instituting executive orders requiring masks indoors for the whole city?
- snug 5y ago
  > Video Sitting behind a table where her drinks are > Are you the mayor and instituting executive orders requiring masks indoors for the whole city? No but I am okay with her executive order, I live in the city and mask up, I don't like that I have to wear a mask, but I wear it when I need to. In her situation, I don't think she is breaking any rules/laws about wearing a mask. She's only around the people that are in her party
  - rkk3 5y ago
    >> Video >Sitting behind a table where her drinks are Did you even watch it? She is singing, dancing and no not sitting down.
rastafang 5y ago
> Unmasked, singing, and dancing with an equally unmasked crowd, cell phone video shows Mayor London Breed inside a club in the Tenderloin on Wednesday night.

nineplay 5y ago

This sort of 'gotcha' culture is frankly more destructive than the some supposed 'cancel' culture. "The mayor of San Francisco was maskless at a club? I guess everything I thought I knew about masks was a lie!" Let the voters of SF worry about it, it doesn't mean anything to me.

rkk3 5y ago
> This sort of 'gotcha' culture is frankly more destructive than the some supposed 'cancel' culture. gotcha? This isn't jaywalking, she unilaterally decided to implement a citywide mask mandate as Mayor via executive order and she goes out partying and singing without one. Do you think that is setting a good example and building trust in civic institutions?
silicon2401 5y ago
It's possible to have more than one issue in the world at a time. Cancel culture is destructive and toxic. Gotcha culture can also be destructive and toxic at the same time.

josephcsible 5y ago

I wish that anyone caught breaking a law that they voted for, signed, or otherwise contributed to passing in an official capacity, would get 10x the punishment that everyone else would get for breaking it.

hoopleheaded 5y ago
This is ridiculous. Despite watching both videos on the linked page I can't actually find the footage of her but presumably she was drinking something before it was shot. I don't think anyone expects you to redon a mask in between sips.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  > I don't think anyone expects you to redon a mask in between sips. https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825 https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825
  - hoopleheaded 5y ago
    In the graphic the diner is depicted as being finished with their meal. The text of the tweet is perhaps bad PR because the author is assuming the public will use common sense.
    - josephcsible 5y ago
      The text of the tweet literally says "Don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites." How exactly are you saying that "between bites" should be interpreted?
      - hoopleheaded 5y ago
        I said the text of the tweet was bad PR. The graphic does not appear to have been designed to support that statement, however. Can you find any other public health guidance aside from this single tweet which supports the idea that you should don and doff a mask dozens of times during a meal?

TimTheTinker 5y ago

This is a concern because: (a) the legal cornerstone of a rule-of-law society is that (1) laws are the only rule enforceable by the government, and (2) those who make the laws are also subject to those laws (b) because of COVID restrictions, those in power have effectively a lot more power than normal to dictate what people can and can't do (c) lately, a lot of reports have come out about rule/law-makers not being subject to those laws. Another example is how congress men and women, as well as their staff, are not subject to the recent US vaccine mandate. Together, these developments signal that the US's rule-of-law status is not what it ought to be.

ctrlp 5y ago

Rules for thee, but not for me. Will she be reelected?

mc32 5y ago
Everyone with a chance to win is even worse!
- ctrlp 5y ago
  Who else has a chance to win? Why are they worse?

ajay-b 5y ago

This brings to mind Mr. Newsome and Mrs. Pelosi doing the same thing. I wish politicians would consider the optics of their actions.

josephcsible 5y ago
The consequences are beyond just "optics". Either they're putting the lives of everyone around them in danger, or they're unnecessarily and unjustly imposing mandates on others under the false pretense that it's necessary to protect the lives of everyone around them.
rkk3 5y ago
A little different. They were hypocrite's and were not following the advice they were giving to the public. London Breed, is not following the mandate she has unilaterally imposed on SF as mayor.

b34wef 5y ago

London Breed is a dirty slut. FBI is on her ass too. It is only a matter of time before she joins her boyfriend and brother in prison. She already had to shell out $20k in ethics violation last month.

rastafang 5y ago

Why do all stories about this get flagged/dead, dang? I know that you don't like Politic-related posts or comments, but...

dang 5y ago
The usual reason—users are flagging them. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html