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But what does "yield" mean? It means slow down, and proceed when it's safe to do so. If a pedestrian starts crossing a 4-lane road and I have time to turn acros

But what does "yield" mean? It means slow down, and proceed when it's safe to do so. If a pedestrian starts crossing a 4-lane road and I have time to turn across his path without making him stop or deviate, then I can proceed safely and I think I've met the definition of "yield"

tzs 5y ago
In Washington, where the video was recorded, the rule is that you must stop and remain stopped as long as there are pedestrians in the crosswalk in in your half of the roadway or within one lane of your half of the roadway. "Half of the roadway" is defined as all traffic lanes carrying traffic in one direction. In the case of a one-way road such as the one in the video "half of the roadway" is the whole road. In your 4-lane hypothetical, if there are two lanes in each direction you can drive through the crosswalk if the pedestrian is in the farthest away opposite direction lane from the lane you are in. In a 4-lane road with 1 lane in one direction and 3 in the other, you can drive through if you are in that 1 and the pedestrian is in the farthest 2 away from you. If you are in one of the 3 going the other way, you have to stop no matter which lane they are in, because they are either in your half (the 3 lanes going your direction), or within 1 lane of your half.
- renewiltord 5y ago
  It is interesting how different the law is from behavior. Walking through Seattle, I would not expect that this was the law considering how often people will cross in front of and behind you (both of which I’m fine with).
  - sleepybrett 5y ago
    It's true that there are laws and enforcement, but an automated system needs to obey the laws. Anything else is a judgement and machines shouldn't be making judgements when lives are on the line.
- SilasX 5y ago
  Fair point but that's less restrictive standard than (your long lost sibling?) mzs was saying applies here.
mzs 5y ago
In the state I live in it is illegal to enter a crosswalk when there is a pedestrian in it when the road is undivided as in this example. I find it unlikely that there is any state where it's legal to do so for a one-way street such as this. (There are states that treat the crosswalk as two halves when there is two-way traffic.)

tzs 5y ago

In Washington, where the video was recorded, the rule is that you must stop and remain stopped as long as there are pedestrians in the crosswalk in in your half of the roadway or within one lane of your half of the roadway. "Half of the roadway" is defined as all traffic lanes carrying traffic in one direction. In the case of a one-way road such as the one in the video "half of the roadway" is the whole road. In your 4-lane hypothetical, if there are two lanes in each direction you can drive through the crosswalk if the pedestrian is in the farthest away opposite direction lane from the lane you are in. In a 4-lane road with 1 lane in one direction and 3 in the other, you can drive through if you are in that 1 and the pedestrian is in the farthest 2 away from you. If you are in one of the 3 going the other way, you have to stop no matter which lane they are in, because they are either in your half (the 3 lanes going your direction), or within 1 lane of your half.

renewiltord 5y ago
It is interesting how different the law is from behavior. Walking through Seattle, I would not expect that this was the law considering how often people will cross in front of and behind you (both of which I’m fine with).
- sleepybrett 5y ago
  It's true that there are laws and enforcement, but an automated system needs to obey the laws. Anything else is a judgement and machines shouldn't be making judgements when lives are on the line.
SilasX 5y ago
Fair point but that's less restrictive standard than (your long lost sibling?) mzs was saying applies here.

mzs 5y ago

In the state I live in it is illegal to enter a crosswalk when there is a pedestrian in it when the road is undivided as in this example. I find it unlikely that there is any state where it's legal to do so for a one-way street such as this. (There are states that treat the crosswalk as two halves when there is two-way traffic.)