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On the one hand I applaud Tesla for being so open about what their system is thinking with their visualisations. That could be interpreted to show a deep belief
by taneq 5y ago
On the one hand I applaud Tesla for being so open about what their system is thinking with their visualisations. That could be interpreted to show a deep belief in their system's capabilities.
On the other hand, it's always terrified me how jittery any version of AutoPilot's perception of the world is. Would you let your car be driven by someone with zero object permanence, 10/20 vision and only a vague idea of the existence or properties of any object other than lane markings and number plates?
- macNchz 5y agoI test drove a Model 3 yesterday and this was something that really jumped out at me. I didn't try any of the automatic driving features, but driving around Brooklyn watching the way the car was perceiving the world around it did not inspire confidence at all. Tesla's over the top marketing and hype seems at once to have been a key ingredient in their success, but also so frustrating because their product is genuinely awesome. I've long been kind of a skeptic but I could not have been more impressed with the test drive I took. It had me ready to buy in about 90 seconds. I wish there were actually-competitive competitors with similar range and power that aren't weird looking SUVs, from brands that don't lean into pure hype.
- zaptrem 5y agoI think the guy above meant to reply to you: > Presumably you are aware that the visualization you see in any retail car is old software, and several iterations behind what the linked video is about (FSD Beta v10). Plus the visualization is quite a bit different (and in many ways simplified) versus what's used for the actual piloting in retail vehicles.
- epistasis 5y agoThe extremely poor performance of the visualizations are disturbing to me. It's also completely wasted space on the display that I wish were devoted to driving directions instead of telling me what I can already see outside of the car.
- taneq 5y agoI think whether it's wasted space or not depends entirely on the reliability of the system. For a many-9's system which for all intents and purposes isn't going to fail dangerously, I agree, the visualisation is just peacocking. For a beta-quality system, knowing what the car is thinking is an important driver feedback which gives additional warning before it does something really stupid.
- lanstin 5y agoYeah, you know to pay attention when the lane edges drop out of the console.
- bhauer 5y agoPresumably you are aware that the visualization you see in any retail car is old software, and several iterations behind what the linked video is about (FSD Beta v10). Plus the visualization is quite a bit different (and in many ways simplified) versus what's used for the actual piloting in retail vehicles.
- wolverine876 5y ago> I applaud Tesla for being so open about what their system is thinking with their visualisations How do you know that what is on the screen matches what the system is 'thinking'? What reason or obligation would Tesla have to engineer accurate visualizations for the real thing and show them to you (remember the definition of accuracy: correct, complete, consistent)? Would Tesla show its customers something that would make them uncomfortable or show Tesla in a bad light, or even question the excitement Tesla hopes to generate? I think it's likely that the display is marketing, not engineering.
- lanstin 5y agoAnd orange cones - the orange cone detection team at Tesla is outstanding. Garbage cans are also pretty accurate. Not sure why they detect garbage cans but not parked cars, but that's just me.