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This is the part that matters. Anyone can DMCA anything

by beeboop 5y ago

closetnerd 5y ago
Are we thinking that Elon super fans might do this?
- soheil 5y ago
  Or Elon haters to make it look like Elon is super paranoid?
  - addicted 5y ago
    Wow. We’re at the crisis actors stage of discourse.
- LewisVerstappen 5y ago
  Edit: I was being dumb and am wrong. This is YouTube's internal system for copyrights not DCMA. Apologies. Old comment below... You can read up on how to submit DCMA takedowns for YouTube here -> https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2807622?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2807622?hl=en The original uploader of the video submitted the DCMA takedown request.
  - judge2020 5y ago
    OP’s point is that anyone can lie in the DMCA takedown form and say they own the content. It’s illegal but I’m not aware of it ever coming back to the perpetrator in the form of jail time/lawsuit.
  - Someone1234 5y ago
    Your YouTube support link isn't about the DMCA, and in fact is an attempt at trying to get people to use their system instead of the DMCA. YouTube's internal copyright takedown system is just that: Internal. DMCA is a legal avenue that you can use against YouTube and their users, but it wouldn't be via their internal copyright take down system. It is in YouTube's best interests for you NOT to use the DMCA as there are avenues where it can leave YouTube themselves civilly liable (OCILLA[0]), so they work hard to funnel people into their internal copyright system that doesn't expose YT. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act#Notice_from_copyright_owner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_...
    - LewisVerstappen 5y ago
      My mistake, apologies. Edited the comment to note my error.
lathiat 5y ago
From the comments in this thread the Twitter copy was not the original creator of the video. The original creator posted it on YouTube but has since made the video private. And they DMCAd the person that reposted it on Twitter. I imagine they probably started getting a lot of negative attention. https://twitter.com/xythar/status/1438539880045309953?s=21 https://twitter.com/xythar/status/1438539880045309953?s=21
advisedwang 5y ago
Anyone is physically capable of sending a DMCA takedown. However it is supposed to be from the copyright owner [17 USC 512(c)(3)(A)(i)] and if it isn't, it can be ignored [17 USC 512(c)(3)(B)] and makes the person who does it liable for damages [17 USC 512(f)(1)]. Although that's probably pretty hard to use in practice.

This is the part that matters. Anyone can DMCA anything

closetnerd 5y ago

Are we thinking that Elon super fans might do this?

soheil 5y ago
Or Elon haters to make it look like Elon is super paranoid?
- addicted 5y ago
  Wow. We’re at the crisis actors stage of discourse.
LewisVerstappen 5y ago
Edit: I was being dumb and am wrong. This is YouTube's internal system for copyrights not DCMA. Apologies. Old comment below... You can read up on how to submit DCMA takedowns for YouTube here -> https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2807622?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2807622?hl=en The original uploader of the video submitted the DCMA takedown request.
- judge2020 5y ago
  OP’s point is that anyone can lie in the DMCA takedown form and say they own the content. It’s illegal but I’m not aware of it ever coming back to the perpetrator in the form of jail time/lawsuit.
- Someone1234 5y ago
  Your YouTube support link isn't about the DMCA, and in fact is an attempt at trying to get people to use their system instead of the DMCA. YouTube's internal copyright takedown system is just that: Internal. DMCA is a legal avenue that you can use against YouTube and their users, but it wouldn't be via their internal copyright take down system. It is in YouTube's best interests for you NOT to use the DMCA as there are avenues where it can leave YouTube themselves civilly liable (OCILLA[0]), so they work hard to funnel people into their internal copyright system that doesn't expose YT. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act#Notice_from_copyright_owner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_...
  - LewisVerstappen 5y ago
    My mistake, apologies. Edited the comment to note my error.

lathiat 5y ago

From the comments in this thread the Twitter copy was not the original creator of the video. The original creator posted it on YouTube but has since made the video private. And they DMCAd the person that reposted it on Twitter. I imagine they probably started getting a lot of negative attention. https://twitter.com/xythar/status/1438539880045309953?s=21 https://twitter.com/xythar/status/1438539880045309953?s=21

advisedwang 5y ago

Anyone is physically capable of sending a DMCA takedown. However it is supposed to be from the copyright owner [17 USC 512(c)(3)(A)(i)] and if it isn't, it can be ignored [17 USC 512(c)(3)(B)] and makes the person who does it liable for damages [17 USC 512(f)(1)]. Although that's probably pretty hard to use in practice.