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I'm waiting for comments downplaying the value of the information while attempting to put the blame on the leakers for whatever reasons. I'm glad that most the

I'm waiting for comments downplaying the value of the information while attempting to put the blame on the leakers for whatever reasons. I'm glad that most the new right is made out of incompetent people with a strong tendency to overestimate their own intellect. Just look at this assessment: > [...] Epik’s “entire primary database,” which contains hosting account usernames and passwords, SSH keys, and even some credit card numbers—all stored in plaintext. Storing passwords in plaintext is inexcusable, even if you're a total junior.

sinyug 5y ago
> overestimate their own intellect It is quite possible that some users whose private details were exposed during this criminal act[1] might end up suffering personal consequences for being on the list. But there will always be a subset that emerges complete unscathed because they no longer depend on surrendering to the Borg and its ideology to maintain either their reputation or their livelihood. To paraphrase Nietzsche, what does not kill them makes them stronger. The Borg "intellect" invariably misses this. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act
- dmulpor 5y ago
  So rich people and retirees who never depended on societal approval for their reputation or livelihood, will continue to not care, and that makes these rich people and retirees...stronger, somehow? Are they psychic vampires that feed on the emotional energy of impotent callings-out? They are, apparently, at war against the emotion-killing Borg, after all. It all makes sense if they're protecting their food source. I imagine those on "the list" tend to have employers and local social circles that are already "on their side" to begin with. And even if they're employed or surrounded by "the Borg", it would take a large-scale "protest" about a specific individual to make that Borg take action, for the real Borg is corporate, and it is motivated only by profit and publicity. Rather, it would take a particularly extremist/outlier individual in a position of power at a local employer/community level to comb through these sorts of lists by their own initiative and take action on its contents.
- nubb 5y ago
  What's the Borg????
  - sinyug 5y ago
    > What's the Borg???? It is what I call the section of the left-progressive movement that went insane during the last decade. It is a Star Trek reference.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg
throwawaysea 5y ago
I agree those security practices are atrocious. However that doesn't excuse the crime committed by these hackers. They deserve to be brought to justice by the law. I doubt that will happen under the current administration, since agencies are probably directed to ignore issues affecting the political right.

sinyug 5y ago

> overestimate their own intellect It is quite possible that some users whose private details were exposed during this criminal act[1] might end up suffering personal consequences for being on the list. But there will always be a subset that emerges complete unscathed because they no longer depend on surrendering to the Borg and its ideology to maintain either their reputation or their livelihood. To paraphrase Nietzsche, what does not kill them makes them stronger. The Borg "intellect" invariably misses this. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act

dmulpor 5y ago
So rich people and retirees who never depended on societal approval for their reputation or livelihood, will continue to not care, and that makes these rich people and retirees...stronger, somehow? Are they psychic vampires that feed on the emotional energy of impotent callings-out? They are, apparently, at war against the emotion-killing Borg, after all. It all makes sense if they're protecting their food source. I imagine those on "the list" tend to have employers and local social circles that are already "on their side" to begin with. And even if they're employed or surrounded by "the Borg", it would take a large-scale "protest" about a specific individual to make that Borg take action, for the real Borg is corporate, and it is motivated only by profit and publicity. Rather, it would take a particularly extremist/outlier individual in a position of power at a local employer/community level to comb through these sorts of lists by their own initiative and take action on its contents.
nubb 5y ago
What's the Borg????
- sinyug 5y ago
  > What's the Borg???? It is what I call the section of the left-progressive movement that went insane during the last decade. It is a Star Trek reference.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg

throwawaysea 5y ago

I agree those security practices are atrocious. However that doesn't excuse the crime committed by these hackers. They deserve to be brought to justice by the law. I doubt that will happen under the current administration, since agencies are probably directed to ignore issues affecting the political right.