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Declassified FBI Report Reveals Saudi Ties to 9/11 Hijackers

40 points by jbegley 5y ago

Ajay-p 5y ago
I think for many there has always been an assumption of this. Saudi Arabia has funneled money in the past to terrorist organizations opposed to Israel and the West.
- Leparamour 5y ago
  >opposed to Israel and the West Except that Israel despite being a logical target has mysteriously avoided terror attacks from Al-Qaeda or ISIS.
  - whatshisface 5y ago
    Does any country in the middle east have a good reason to care that much about Israel? Does Israel truly have a reason to care that much about any other country in the Middle East? As long as Netanyahu's expansionist desires are satisfied by shaving away pieces of his immediate neighbors, US invasion - which has happened to a few countries already - is a more real and present threat. Of course, why SA would think that terrorism will keep the US out of the Middle East, that's the missing piece of this picture and may invalidate it.
    - Leparamour 5y ago
      > Does any country in the middle east have a good reason to care that much about Israel? Does Israel truly have a reason to care that much about any other country in the Middle East? The answer to both of your questions is Iran. Which makes Israel and ISIS strange bedfellows, when Israeli fighter jets dropped bombs on Iranian-backed militas fighting ISIS in Syria.
      - whatshisface 5y ago
        Before Netanyahu can begin dubiously shaving off little slices of Iran, he'd have to dubiously shave off all of Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and northern Saudi Arabia. I have heard about the nukes thing but neither country would stand to gain anything even if the exchange was one-sided.
        Leparamour 5y ago
        Netanyahu hasn't been prime minister since June 2021. This is the current prime minister: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naftali_Bennett https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naftali_Bennett Although the background isn't that much different from Netanyahu.
  - aeortiz 5y ago
    Retaliation is too easy for Israel, it would bring the war too close to home. The US needs the Saudis more than Israel does.
- fit2rule 5y ago
  It puts the US' involvement in Yemen into very unsavoury light.
literallyaduck 5y ago
Now declassified the Vegas shootout. Edit: why does a call for transparency, on another event which has some allegations that the Saudis were connected, garner such ire?
- ktkoffroth 5y ago
  It is strange how no one ever talks about the deadliest mass shooting in US history. Especially since the perpetrator supposedly had no motive. Oh well, it's probably all these pesky gun rights that caused it.
  - whatshisface 5y ago
    Talking about it so vaguely will just make all the current believers smugly say yes while everyone else smugly says no. I am perceiving a real piping hot morning mug of smug.
  - post_break 5y ago
    You mean the part where they took a piece of plastic and classified it as a machine gun, and told anyone who bought one to destroy it or go to prison? Meanwhile anyone with enough practice can bump fire a normal gun. All while not compensating a single person without threat of turning law abiding citizens into felons over night.
  - krapp 5y ago
    Mass shootings are so common in the US (notwithstanding the anomalous ceasefire forced by COVID) that talking about them is like talking about the weather. Just another Tuesday blurs together with all of the other Tuesdays. And why bother talking about them when "conversation" always follows the same tedious partisan flowchart?
  - atatatat 5y ago
    That's definitely not why this specific event is discussed. Probably the "how did all that shit get up there" problem is why the story vanished, relatively speaking.
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coldcode 5y ago
Why do people post articles you can't actually read? All I get is a paywall.
- tsjq 5y ago
  Paywall bypass https://archive.is/hBdsC https://archive.is/hBdsC Can try thru https://12ft.io https://12ft.io also
beeboop 5y ago
Surprising no one ever. I think Family Guy had commentary on this exact point like 15 years ago

40 points by jbegley 5y ago

I think for many there has always been an assumption of this. Saudi Arabia has funneled money in the past to terrorist organizations opposed to Israel and the West.

Leparamour 5y ago
>opposed to Israel and the West Except that Israel despite being a logical target has mysteriously avoided terror attacks from Al-Qaeda or ISIS.
- whatshisface 5y ago
  Does any country in the middle east have a good reason to care that much about Israel? Does Israel truly have a reason to care that much about any other country in the Middle East? As long as Netanyahu's expansionist desires are satisfied by shaving away pieces of his immediate neighbors, US invasion - which has happened to a few countries already - is a more real and present threat. Of course, why SA would think that terrorism will keep the US out of the Middle East, that's the missing piece of this picture and may invalidate it.
  - Leparamour 5y ago
    > Does any country in the middle east have a good reason to care that much about Israel? Does Israel truly have a reason to care that much about any other country in the Middle East? The answer to both of your questions is Iran. Which makes Israel and ISIS strange bedfellows, when Israeli fighter jets dropped bombs on Iranian-backed militas fighting ISIS in Syria.
    - whatshisface 5y ago
      Before Netanyahu can begin dubiously shaving off little slices of Iran, he'd have to dubiously shave off all of Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and northern Saudi Arabia. I have heard about the nukes thing but neither country would stand to gain anything even if the exchange was one-sided.
      - Leparamour 5y ago
        Netanyahu hasn't been prime minister since June 2021. This is the current prime minister: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naftali_Bennett https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naftali_Bennett Although the background isn't that much different from Netanyahu.
- aeortiz 5y ago
  Retaliation is too easy for Israel, it would bring the war too close to home. The US needs the Saudis more than Israel does.
fit2rule 5y ago
It puts the US' involvement in Yemen into very unsavoury light.

literallyaduck 5y ago

Now declassified the Vegas shootout. Edit: why does a call for transparency, on another event which has some allegations that the Saudis were connected, garner such ire?

ktkoffroth 5y ago
It is strange how no one ever talks about the deadliest mass shooting in US history. Especially since the perpetrator supposedly had no motive. Oh well, it's probably all these pesky gun rights that caused it.
- whatshisface 5y ago
  Talking about it so vaguely will just make all the current believers smugly say yes while everyone else smugly says no. I am perceiving a real piping hot morning mug of smug.
- post_break 5y ago
  You mean the part where they took a piece of plastic and classified it as a machine gun, and told anyone who bought one to destroy it or go to prison? Meanwhile anyone with enough practice can bump fire a normal gun. All while not compensating a single person without threat of turning law abiding citizens into felons over night.
- krapp 5y ago
  Mass shootings are so common in the US (notwithstanding the anomalous ceasefire forced by COVID) that talking about them is like talking about the weather. Just another Tuesday blurs together with all of the other Tuesdays. And why bother talking about them when "conversation" always follows the same tedious partisan flowchart?
- atatatat 5y ago
  That's definitely not why this specific event is discussed. Probably the "how did all that shit get up there" problem is why the story vanished, relatively speaking.
5y ago

coldcode 5y ago

Why do people post articles you can't actually read? All I get is a paywall.

tsjq 5y ago
Paywall bypass https://archive.is/hBdsC https://archive.is/hBdsC Can try thru https://12ft.io https://12ft.io also

beeboop 5y ago

Surprising no one ever. I think Family Guy had commentary on this exact point like 15 years ago