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That's just an outright lie. The product they pulled was search. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Ch

by jsnell 5y ago

That's just an outright lie. The product they pulled was search. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_China it had a 36% search market share.

hnlmorg 5y ago
> That's just an outright lie. Your citation literally contradicts your rebuttal! > By November 2013, Google's search market share in China had declined to 1.7% from its August 2009 level of 36.2% ^ that's literally in the Wiki article you posted! So I have no idea why you're assuming I'm lying (which is an accusation that I'm intending to deceive you ffs) nor even why you think that link backs up your claim when it literally states the same thing I had (their Search product sucked (due to censorship) so they redirected to HK and focused on other products).
- Kinrany 5y ago
  Google pulled out in 2010, of course their market share declined.
  - hnlmorg 5y ago
    They did still redirect people to the Hong Kong search though. They didn't entirely pull out from China, just discontinued the Chinese search engine. And they did that because Google.cn was largely a broken service with a significant number of results being blocked by the Great Firewall. That wiki literally states all of this! Google Search was never really what one would normally describe as a "successful product" in China even when it was at it's hight in terms of market share. It sucked and given Google still operate in China, have development offices there and actively promote Android (amongst other services), it's a real stretch to say that Google discontinued Search in China over ethical reasons. Search was just, like many of their services in the west that get canned, just not proving successful enough to be worth the hassle supporting. Which was my original point. edit: Christ on a bike. I'm getting downvoted when even the citations backs up my statement. Googlers must have logged on for their morning dose of internet outrage.

by jsnell 5y ago

That's just an outright lie. The product they pulled was search. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_China it had a 36% search market share.

hnlmorg 5y ago

> That's just an outright lie. Your citation literally contradicts your rebuttal! > By November 2013, Google's search market share in China had declined to 1.7% from its August 2009 level of 36.2% ^ that's literally in the Wiki article you posted! So I have no idea why you're assuming I'm lying (which is an accusation that I'm intending to deceive you ffs) nor even why you think that link backs up your claim when it literally states the same thing I had (their Search product sucked (due to censorship) so they redirected to HK and focused on other products).

Kinrany 5y ago
Google pulled out in 2010, of course their market share declined.
- hnlmorg 5y ago
  They did still redirect people to the Hong Kong search though. They didn't entirely pull out from China, just discontinued the Chinese search engine. And they did that because Google.cn was largely a broken service with a significant number of results being blocked by the Great Firewall. That wiki literally states all of this! Google Search was never really what one would normally describe as a "successful product" in China even when it was at it's hight in terms of market share. It sucked and given Google still operate in China, have development offices there and actively promote Android (amongst other services), it's a real stretch to say that Google discontinued Search in China over ethical reasons. Search was just, like many of their services in the west that get canned, just not proving successful enough to be worth the hassle supporting. Which was my original point. edit: Christ on a bike. I'm getting downvoted when even the citations backs up my statement. Googlers must have logged on for their morning dose of internet outrage.