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Germany is becoming China-light. We are talking about accounts critizising lockdowns for valid reasons, which has NOTHING to do with "fake news" or misinformati

by sliq 5y ago

Germany is becoming China-light. We are talking about accounts critizising lockdowns for valid reasons, which has NOTHING to do with "fake news" or misinformation. These accounts are usually made by people who got their businesses or lifes destroyed by radical lockdowns, and the topic is far wider than just lockdowns (it's also about closing down all indoor activities): literally the entire nightlife / clubs / sports / gastronomy / travel sectors are killed by questionable rules. In the last 18 months lots of journalists, artists, activists, scientists and masses of critics on Social Media have been silenced, it's a bizarre situation. If the government says it's correct, then it's correct.

detaro 5y ago
Not sure why a US company deciding to close accounts without being forced to is Germany becoming China-light?
- bobbytit 5y ago
  So you don't think the German authorities asked?
  - sliq 5y ago
    Yes! Facebook is not really a "US company", for each country they operate in they have to deal with the local laws, and they have lots of office and crews in each country, simply to comply to local issues. Facebook is reacting to 10.000s of legal requests in Germany alone PER DAY, coming from a wide range of actors (copyright issues, violence, hate speech, police, government). It's bizarre that so many people are so naive thinking political issues on the web - especially on the big platforms - are not censored.
- sliq 5y ago
  You are totally misunderstanding how this works. Accounts are closed because somebody files a complaint, usually somebody capable of the language and with a serious interest in taking down somebody. In Germany this is usually done by political opponents, "activists", cancel-culture people and surely trolls too, and it has nothing to do with Facebook being originally a US-based company. From legal perspective, they are german company in Germany (and similar in most other countries too) and have to react to requests by authorities too. In China and Russia they (would) have to deal with the local laws too, if you like it or not. As I explained before, these accounts are (usually) not spreading misinformation, they are doing the opposite: critizing stupid government activities, talking about medicial issues with the vaccination etc. And this is a major problem in Germany, as every critique is quickly shut down. It doesnt matter what you think or believe, it's a fact that this is happening, and it's a big problem for every science-based society.

by sliq 5y ago

detaro 5y ago

Not sure why a US company deciding to close accounts without being forced to is Germany becoming China-light?

bobbytit 5y ago
So you don't think the German authorities asked?
- sliq 5y ago
  Yes! Facebook is not really a "US company", for each country they operate in they have to deal with the local laws, and they have lots of office and crews in each country, simply to comply to local issues. Facebook is reacting to 10.000s of legal requests in Germany alone PER DAY, coming from a wide range of actors (copyright issues, violence, hate speech, police, government). It's bizarre that so many people are so naive thinking political issues on the web - especially on the big platforms - are not censored.
sliq 5y ago
You are totally misunderstanding how this works. Accounts are closed because somebody files a complaint, usually somebody capable of the language and with a serious interest in taking down somebody. In Germany this is usually done by political opponents, "activists", cancel-culture people and surely trolls too, and it has nothing to do with Facebook being originally a US-based company. From legal perspective, they are german company in Germany (and similar in most other countries too) and have to react to requests by authorities too. In China and Russia they (would) have to deal with the local laws too, if you like it or not. As I explained before, these accounts are (usually) not spreading misinformation, they are doing the opposite: critizing stupid government activities, talking about medicial issues with the vaccination etc. And this is a major problem in Germany, as every critique is quickly shut down. It doesnt matter what you think or believe, it's a fact that this is happening, and it's a big problem for every science-based society.