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> Can you please be more specific which vaccine you consider experimental? All of the COVID-related ones. There are no known long-term side effects as these d

> Can you please be more specific which vaccine you consider experimental? All of the COVID-related ones. There are no known long-term side effects as these drugs that have been injected into humans are only a few years old at most. According to Reuters [0] the trials are still ongoing. According to the UK government these vaccines were given out while still in trial [1] and some are ongoing. Whether that's standard practice or not, they are still working out the long-term side-effects. So what happens in 5 years? What data do we have on these? What happens if Alzheimers cases go through the roof in 5 years? Do we just throw our hands up and say, "Well, we never saw that coming!" By then there will be billions with the injections. Vaccines take up to 10 years to make [2]. There is no possible way you can simulate the long-term side effects. None whatsoever. You need to observe people that have taken it for years! You also need a diverse group of people: female physiology can change dramatically based on age. Asians, white people and black people may react differently to the injections and so on... there is no long-term data on these injections! None! [0] - https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-vaccine-monitoring-idUSKBN2AC2G3 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-vaccine-monitor... [1] - https://post.parliament.uk/covid-19-vaccines-november-update-progress-of-clinical-trials/ https://post.parliament.uk/covid-19-vaccines-november-update... [2] - https://news.ncsu.edu/2020/12/vaccine-manufacturing-q-and-a/ https://news.ncsu.edu/2020/12/vaccine-manufacturing-q-and-a/

Goodthim 5y ago
Ah you are probably a well educated vaccine researcher? Any papers you like to share? It are you an established doc? It's great to have independent experts here on hn. So we don't need to trust those experts who are in the global pandemic circles since beginning. Tell me more how you were able to conclude your Statements based in how you Google articles from the Internet which align with your world view :)
- _Understated_ 5y ago
  For your information I trust nothing about COVID that has been published either by mainstream media, social media or alt media now. Nothing at all. As far as I am concerned there are far too many people with vested interests polluting the waters. I was merely linking to mainstream media sources as most people on here appear to shoot down anything that isn't mainstream media or mainstream thinking. For the last several months, when I come across an article that has "science" about COVID in it I automatically look for peer-reviewed papers in the text. I don't care if Albert Einstein himself told me that the COVID vaccine is safe, or if he said I will die from COVID... unless there is a peer-reviewed scientific paper I will disregard anything said by that media outlet. Too many sources are just quoting scientists and celebrities about how safe (or how dangerous) vaccines (and other info) are. No one questions anything [0] I'm fucking sick of the lack of critical thinking! I'm fucking sick of not being able to question something without getting downvoted, shouted down, branded a conspiracy theorist. The fundamental core of science is that I can question it! This is no longer allowed. It's dogma, religion, whatever you want to call it, not science! COVID is no longer about science any more. There is literally no science behind giving 12 year old children an experimental drug that has a higher chance of inflaming their heart than it does of preventing COVID symptoms... FFS, only 25 people in the UK under the age of 18 died last year from COVID! [1] [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment [1] - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/14/uk-covid-vaccinations-for-children-aged-12-15-what-you-need-to-know https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/14/uk-covid-vacci...
  - angelzen 5y ago
    > only 25 people in the UK under the age of 18 died last year from COVID! > 15 had life-limiting or underlying conditions, including 13 living with complex neuro-disabilities https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57766717 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57766717 This is the (social) media tactic: remove the distinction between 'die with covid / die of covid', don't mention comorbidities, don't mention age, throw in a couple anecdotes of healthy people taken down by covid, and before long people believe that 10% of healthy children are going to die a covid unless we acquiesce to the most drastic measures in perpetuity. At the same time our sophisticated leaders throw large parties with no masks to keep greasing the corruption machine.

Goodthim 5y ago

Ah you are probably a well educated vaccine researcher? Any papers you like to share? It are you an established doc? It's great to have independent experts here on hn. So we don't need to trust those experts who are in the global pandemic circles since beginning. Tell me more how you were able to conclude your Statements based in how you Google articles from the Internet which align with your world view :)

_Understated_ 5y ago
For your information I trust nothing about COVID that has been published either by mainstream media, social media or alt media now. Nothing at all. As far as I am concerned there are far too many people with vested interests polluting the waters. I was merely linking to mainstream media sources as most people on here appear to shoot down anything that isn't mainstream media or mainstream thinking. For the last several months, when I come across an article that has "science" about COVID in it I automatically look for peer-reviewed papers in the text. I don't care if Albert Einstein himself told me that the COVID vaccine is safe, or if he said I will die from COVID... unless there is a peer-reviewed scientific paper I will disregard anything said by that media outlet. Too many sources are just quoting scientists and celebrities about how safe (or how dangerous) vaccines (and other info) are. No one questions anything [0] I'm fucking sick of the lack of critical thinking! I'm fucking sick of not being able to question something without getting downvoted, shouted down, branded a conspiracy theorist. The fundamental core of science is that I can question it! This is no longer allowed. It's dogma, religion, whatever you want to call it, not science! COVID is no longer about science any more. There is literally no science behind giving 12 year old children an experimental drug that has a higher chance of inflaming their heart than it does of preventing COVID symptoms... FFS, only 25 people in the UK under the age of 18 died last year from COVID! [1] [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment [1] - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/14/uk-covid-vaccinations-for-children-aged-12-15-what-you-need-to-know https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/14/uk-covid-vacci...
- angelzen 5y ago
  > only 25 people in the UK under the age of 18 died last year from COVID! > 15 had life-limiting or underlying conditions, including 13 living with complex neuro-disabilities https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57766717 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57766717 This is the (social) media tactic: remove the distinction between 'die with covid / die of covid', don't mention comorbidities, don't mention age, throw in a couple anecdotes of healthy people taken down by covid, and before long people believe that 10% of healthy children are going to die a covid unless we acquiesce to the most drastic measures in perpetuity. At the same time our sophisticated leaders throw large parties with no masks to keep greasing the corruption machine.