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> I'm sure that St Andrews is a brilliant college. It's not a 'college' at all.

Jensson 5y ago
In American speech it is. Anything which teaches undergraduates and awards college degrees is a college. They can also have a research university attach to it, but it is still a college. It doesn't make sense to me how here in Europe universities tries to say that they aren't anything but a university. Americans got this one right. How else would you compare where to study? Do you say "university rankings" but include non universities there that doesn't do research? You go there to do college studies, and try to find the best place to do college studies, why say it is wrong to call it a college?
- arethuza 5y ago
  Because in the UK "college" means a variety of things, none of which apply to St Andrews?
  - Jensson 5y ago
    But this is a mostly American forum? Why say it is wrong to use the American word? Everyone understands what the poster meant. You wouldn't correct someone using the American billion just because it happened to be about a UK company either.
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    - arethuza 5y ago
      Given the time of day and the subject matter I suspect most people discussing this on here are not from the US.
    - Sanguinaire 5y ago
      "College" in the UK education system already has a definition; it is the place you go from 16 to 18, studying a narrower curriculum than regular school prior to 16. You will also hear references to "sixth form college", which is the same 16-18 education but delivered at the same physical school as under-16 teaching.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  > You go there to do college studies An undergraduate degree isn't 'college studies' in British English. Nobody would say that. > why say it is wrong to call it a college? Why is it wrong to call it a fish? Because it's not a fish. Why is it wrong to call it a college? Because it's not a college.
  - Jensson 5y ago
    But this is a mostly American forum? Why say it is wrong to use the American word? Everyone understands what the poster meant. You wouldn't correct someone using the American billion just because it happened to be about a UK company either.
    - chrisseaton 5y ago
      Seems rude to mis-title something or someone from another culture? Like all these lunatics yesterday talking about 'Sir Sinclair'. Calling it a 'college' makes it sound like something less than it is. I would try not to mis-title things from another culture myself.
jack_riminton 5y ago
Whoosh
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- 8bitsrule 5y ago
  Someone needs is a good fish-slapping.
8bitsrule 5y ago
In US colloquial English the term 'college' is used to refer to ANY academic (non-trade) schools where a 'college' degree (above 'high' school) can be earned. Like it or lump it. This is hardly a 'slam' for St Andrews; aluminum is more concise than aluminium, as is 'math' compared to 'maths'. In the US a 'public' school is -not- elite (fee-charging); the general 'public' is welcome there. Not just stuck-up nit-pickers.

In American speech it is. Anything which teaches undergraduates and awards college degrees is a college. They can also have a research university attach to it, but it is still a college. It doesn't make sense to me how here in Europe universities tries to say that they aren't anything but a university. Americans got this one right. How else would you compare where to study? Do you say "university rankings" but include non universities there that doesn't do research? You go there to do college studies, and try to find the best place to do college studies, why say it is wrong to call it a college?

arethuza 5y ago
Because in the UK "college" means a variety of things, none of which apply to St Andrews?
- Jensson 5y ago
  But this is a mostly American forum? Why say it is wrong to use the American word? Everyone understands what the poster meant. You wouldn't correct someone using the American billion just because it happened to be about a UK company either.
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  - arethuza 5y ago
    Given the time of day and the subject matter I suspect most people discussing this on here are not from the US.
  - Sanguinaire 5y ago
    "College" in the UK education system already has a definition; it is the place you go from 16 to 18, studying a narrower curriculum than regular school prior to 16. You will also hear references to "sixth form college", which is the same 16-18 education but delivered at the same physical school as under-16 teaching.
chrisseaton 5y ago
> You go there to do college studies An undergraduate degree isn't 'college studies' in British English. Nobody would say that. > why say it is wrong to call it a college? Why is it wrong to call it a fish? Because it's not a fish. Why is it wrong to call it a college? Because it's not a college.
- Jensson 5y ago
  But this is a mostly American forum? Why say it is wrong to use the American word? Everyone understands what the poster meant. You wouldn't correct someone using the American billion just because it happened to be about a UK company either.
  - chrisseaton 5y ago
    Seems rude to mis-title something or someone from another culture? Like all these lunatics yesterday talking about 'Sir Sinclair'. Calling it a 'college' makes it sound like something less than it is. I would try not to mis-title things from another culture myself.

jack_riminton 5y ago

Whoosh

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8bitsrule 5y ago
Someone needs is a good fish-slapping.

8bitsrule 5y ago

In US colloquial English the term 'college' is used to refer to ANY academic (non-trade) schools where a 'college' degree (above 'high' school) can be earned. Like it or lump it. This is hardly a 'slam' for St Andrews; aluminum is more concise than aluminium, as is 'math' compared to 'maths'. In the US a 'public' school is -not- elite (fee-charging); the general 'public' is welcome there. Not just stuck-up nit-pickers.