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Can’t sequoia seedlings be planted around the world?

ncmncm 5y ago
In principle, yes. But wild land is being encroached upon worldwide. And other stuff is already trying to live on what is left. When the seas rose from 20kya until 8kya, inundating millions of square miles of prime habitat, people moved uphill. But other people had already been living there for millennnia. Often those were peoples who had been driven out of prime bottom land, and were making do in marginal circumstances. Guess what happened then.
- dr_dshiv 5y ago
  > Guess what happened then. They made babies together?
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    Curious description of raping and pillaging you have there.
    - cratermoon 5y ago
      In other words, they made babies together. Just not in the loving and intimate way usually implied by the phrase.
poulpy123 5y ago
It's possible. I know a place in a remote part of France with one sequoia. I don't know how it arrived there (there is nothing of interest). However is it a good idea to massively plant sequoias outside their native range ?
Someone 5y ago
https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/trees/giantsequoia/elsewhere/ https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/trees/giantsequoia/elsewh... That site even has a database of sequoias, for example https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/europe-giantsequoia/ https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/europe-giantsequoia/
the_third_wave 5y ago
They can, and they are - we planted one in the backyard when we came back from our first family trip to the USA in 1979. It is now some 30 meters high and dominates the area, the iron fence needed to be moved so the trunk (which is about 1.50m in diameter at chest height) fits, it is encroaching a bit on the cycle path behind the house. This is in Abcoude in the Netherlands, a village just below Amsterdam. There are several specimens of Sequoiadendron Giganteum [1] in the Netherlands, among them one [2] in the arboretum at Wageningen University (where I studied forestry). It is a hardy species which does quite well in the wet Dutch climate. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoiadendron_giganteum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoiadendron_giganteum [2] https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/nld/gelderland/wageningen/188_botanicalgardendedreijen/491/ https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/nld/gelderland/wageningen...
- Gravityloss 5y ago
  Awesome and mind boggling. 30 meters high in 42 years, that's some really fast growth, are you sure about the height? It sounds incredible already.
  - the_third_wave 5y ago
    It is somewhere between 25 and 30 m, I don´t know the exact height. The same goes for the diameter, this is a guesstimate. Having measured many trees it won't be that far off the mark though.
    - headShrinker 5y ago
      “ The giant sequoia is the fastest growing conifer on earth given the right conditions. We expect 4 feet of upward growth in the third year for trees in large pots and one-inch plus growth rings. They have the potential to grow faster every year. Giant sequoias grow rapidly tall and less dense when the rising and setting sun is blocked. They quit growing tall rapidly once they reach full sun. Once they reach full sun they begin to grow a thick trunk, dense foliage, and rapidly put on weight.” https://www.giant-sequoia.com/faqs/giant-sequoia-landscape-questions/ https://www.giant-sequoia.com/faqs/giant-sequoia-landscape-q...
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mkl 5y ago
They already are, but it doesn't make natural forests of them. A few weeks ago we had a discussion about a database of sequoias in British Isles: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28047458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28047458
nullz3r0 5y ago
Giant Sequoias typically grow between 4000' - 8000' feet. I've been growing redwoods for the past two years and have 20+ Coastal Redwoods, but most of my Giant Sequoias die from being so low to sea level. https://www.savetheredwoods.org/redwoods/giant-sequoias/ https://www.savetheredwoods.org/redwoods/giant-sequoias/
- Maursault 5y ago
  > Giant Sequoias typically grow between 4000' - 8000' feet Wow! I knew they were tall, but I had no idea they could grow to a mile and a half... and typically! ok, ok, jk. You meant elevation not height, to which the really tall ones may get over 300'.

In principle, yes. But wild land is being encroached upon worldwide. And other stuff is already trying to live on what is left. When the seas rose from 20kya until 8kya, inundating millions of square miles of prime habitat, people moved uphill. But other people had already been living there for millennnia. Often those were peoples who had been driven out of prime bottom land, and were making do in marginal circumstances. Guess what happened then.

dr_dshiv 5y ago
> Guess what happened then. They made babies together?
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Curious description of raping and pillaging you have there.
  - cratermoon 5y ago
    In other words, they made babies together. Just not in the loving and intimate way usually implied by the phrase.

poulpy123 5y ago

It's possible. I know a place in a remote part of France with one sequoia. I don't know how it arrived there (there is nothing of interest). However is it a good idea to massively plant sequoias outside their native range ?

Someone 5y ago

https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/trees/giantsequoia/elsewhere/ https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/trees/giantsequoia/elsewh... That site even has a database of sequoias, for example https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/europe-giantsequoia/ https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/europe-giantsequoia/

the_third_wave 5y ago

They can, and they are - we planted one in the backyard when we came back from our first family trip to the USA in 1979. It is now some 30 meters high and dominates the area, the iron fence needed to be moved so the trunk (which is about 1.50m in diameter at chest height) fits, it is encroaching a bit on the cycle path behind the house. This is in Abcoude in the Netherlands, a village just below Amsterdam. There are several specimens of Sequoiadendron Giganteum [1] in the Netherlands, among them one [2] in the arboretum at Wageningen University (where I studied forestry). It is a hardy species which does quite well in the wet Dutch climate. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoiadendron_giganteum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoiadendron_giganteum [2] https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/nld/gelderland/wageningen/188_botanicalgardendedreijen/491/ https://www.monumentaltrees.com/en/nld/gelderland/wageningen...

Gravityloss 5y ago
Awesome and mind boggling. 30 meters high in 42 years, that's some really fast growth, are you sure about the height? It sounds incredible already.
- the_third_wave 5y ago
  It is somewhere between 25 and 30 m, I don´t know the exact height. The same goes for the diameter, this is a guesstimate. Having measured many trees it won't be that far off the mark though.
  - headShrinker 5y ago
    “ The giant sequoia is the fastest growing conifer on earth given the right conditions. We expect 4 feet of upward growth in the third year for trees in large pots and one-inch plus growth rings. They have the potential to grow faster every year. Giant sequoias grow rapidly tall and less dense when the rising and setting sun is blocked. They quit growing tall rapidly once they reach full sun. Once they reach full sun they begin to grow a thick trunk, dense foliage, and rapidly put on weight.” https://www.giant-sequoia.com/faqs/giant-sequoia-landscape-questions/ https://www.giant-sequoia.com/faqs/giant-sequoia-landscape-q...

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mkl 5y ago

They already are, but it doesn't make natural forests of them. A few weeks ago we had a discussion about a database of sequoias in British Isles: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28047458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28047458

nullz3r0 5y ago

Giant Sequoias typically grow between 4000' - 8000' feet. I've been growing redwoods for the past two years and have 20+ Coastal Redwoods, but most of my Giant Sequoias die from being so low to sea level. https://www.savetheredwoods.org/redwoods/giant-sequoias/ https://www.savetheredwoods.org/redwoods/giant-sequoias/

Maursault 5y ago
> Giant Sequoias typically grow between 4000' - 8000' feet Wow! I knew they were tall, but I had no idea they could grow to a mile and a half... and typically! ok, ok, jk. You meant elevation not height, to which the really tall ones may get over 300'.