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The thing is, that it's all very time-sensitive. And I expect pressure was unreasonably high. We have elections in Russia this weekend and Navalny app was used
by elephantum 5y ago
The thing is, that it's all very time-sensitive. And I expect pressure was unreasonably high.
We have elections in Russia this weekend and Navalny app was used as a tool to coordinate protest voting. It is called "Smart Voting" by Navalny team and it is getting a lot of attention for upcomping elections.
If Apple and Google would just be a little bit slower and complied next Monday :)
Still there are more ways to coordinate Smart Voting. Google Docs with recommendations are published. There are youtube videos where Navalny team reads whole list aloud. There's a Telegram bot.
So I hope this action would just bring more attention to the matter.
- Arech 5y agoPlease don't call it elections. Nothing even close.
- Dah00n 5y agoWell, it's all in the eye of the beholder. As someone living in Scandinavia looking at the US that doesn't look like elections much either. Pick your favourite animal: A: Black horse B: Brown horse Z: Pony
- Arech 5y agoNo it is not. (if you really "living in Scandinavia") You literally don't understand what are you talking about, which is damn obvious when you comparing Scandinavia or even US to Russia. You basically comparing Tesla car to horse-drawn carriage and draw similarities on a basis that both have 4 wheels and therefore they are both great and safe transportation devices.
- jhgb 5y agoI'm not from Scandinavia and the vast majority of US politicians look like interchangeable parts to me as well.
- ansible 5y ago> I'm not from Scandinavia and the vast majority of US politicians look like interchangeable parts to me as well. USA citizen. What's hilarious is that 10 years ago, I would have readily agreed with you. Both parties were too deeply beholden to special interests and corporate interests. There were some policy differences, but not that much, really. In the last five years, however, one party has gone completely batshit insane. Norms, precedent, common decency, acceptance of basic facts, acceptance of basic common sense... these have all gone out the window. And been replaced with cult-like unwavering loyalty to a single man. The other party, though still frequently dissapointingly inept and incompetent, now has my unhesitating support. It is not even close in my mind anymore.
- sershe 5y agoThe way I see it, one party has gone dumb, and the other party is obviously going evil (I am from Russia so you can guess what I think of leftism). The question is whether you prefer your government dumb or evil; I think dumb is... the lesser of two evils. But I can agree on the timing aspect, I'd vote for Obama OR Romney over literally any politician prominent in 2021.
- tialaramex 5y agoIf you're from Russia, what part of the Democratic party looks like "leftism" to you?
- ansible 5y agoThe "left wing" in the USA is the "center-right" in other parts of the world. We're still a ways away from basic stuff like universal health care that every other developed country has.
- sershe 5y agoNot really... somebody posted here recently, I cannot find a comment; supposedly posting CDU (German center-right party) policies into the recent NYT poll gets you lumped with trumpist wing of GOP. Many policies that are considered right-wing in the US enjoy broad support in European countries (e.g. official languages). Some things practiced Europe, like the Danish "immigrant ghetto" policies, would cause the US left to melt down so hard they'd burn a hole thru the Earth and come out in the Indian ocean (to be clear, I don't support or don't know/care enough to have an opinion about most of this stuff). Universal healthcare is provided by many countries from Singapore, that few would call left-wing; to outright totalitarian regimes, e.g. modern Russia. It's an indicator of statism, not leftism; I am not a big fan of that either, but non-leftist statism (a-la Singapore) is ok and totally different from what I'm talking about. Tangentially but helpfully, I would recommend looking up the difference between social democracy and democratic socialism, as described by democratic socialists.
- mcntsh 5y agoAs someone living in Scandinavia you probably have a King. Anyway, these law makers are still democratically elected in the US (more than we can say about the king of Norway), and these parties are more like coalitions anyway since they're so large and broad.
- jhgb 5y agoThe king of Norway is not a lawmaker, though. He's not even a minister.
- lotusmars 5y agoWhy do you always start talking about US when somebody talks about injustices in other countries? Like really.
- slim 5y agoIt's not clear what does the app do? What is protest voting and how do you coordinate it ?
- kurokikaze 5y agoIt's voting for the candidate most likely to win against the main party's candidates. The app's purpose is to concentrate protest voters on one candidate without spreading them over all of them.
- d0gsg0w00f 5y agoCould the same thing be accomplished with rank choice voting?
- jhgb 5y agoWouldn't you have to be in control of the government for that in the first place?
- kilotaras 5y agoAre you asking if Russia would allow alternative voting system in order to make it easier voting for opposition candidate?
- d0gsg0w00f 5y agoIt sounds like the app has a similar goal as ranked choice voting.
- jonathanlydall 5y agoRussia doesn't presently use rank choice voting, so it's not an option for this weekend's election.
- onlyrealcuzzo 5y agoIsn't there a lot of evidence that Russia's elections are rigged? Like turnout percentages have ridiculous percentages of ratios that end in 0 and 5 - as do growth in turnout.