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> Very big battery (can't get a firm figure but have heard numbers from 110kWh to 150kWh). It's 113 kWh. They don't specify if that's net or gross capacity. It

> Very big battery (can't get a firm figure but have heard numbers from 110kWh to 150kWh). It's 113 kWh. They don't specify if that's net or gross capacity. It's probably net: https://www.lucidmotors.com/stories/introducing-2021-lucid-air https://www.lucidmotors.com/stories/introducing-2021-lucid-a...

babesh 5y ago
There are people on Twitter looking at the underlying efficiency numbers for highway and city who think it needs higher kWh than that. That link is from 2020 btw. We will probably soon find out.
- clouddrover 5y ago
  If people on Twitter say so then it must be true.
  - babesh 5y ago
    These aren't random people. These are prominent people in the Tesla community. Don't be so condescending and arrogant. More specifically Rob Maurer and Omar Qazi were looking into it. Here is Omar Qazi's speculation based on the numbers of 140kWh. https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1438585974015987724 https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1438585974015987724 Here is Rob Maurer's speculation that it is actually about 129kWh instead. https://twitter.com/TeslaPodcast/status/1438596012281630720 https://twitter.com/TeslaPodcast/status/1438596012281630720
    - clouddrover 5y ago
      You mean people in the Tesla community who are trying to rationalize to themselves why Teslas don't drive as far? It isn't condescension or arrogance. It's simply practicality.
      - babesh 5y ago
        Really? Here is what Lucid Motors tweeted today. https://twitter.com/lucidmotors/status/1438615868183744519?s=21 https://twitter.com/lucidmotors/status/1438615868183744519?s... All they say is > 110kWh
        clouddrover 5y ago
        So you mean just like how 113 kWh is greater than 110 kWh? No way, man.
        babesh 5y ago
        Just like 114 is greater than 110. Just like 200 is greater than 110. Just like 110.1 is greater than 110. Basic logic and basic math. 13. Guess a number greater than than 10. Must be 13. See I told you so. Hahahahaha. If you so believe it is 113, what happens if I share the link of a Lucid battery that says 110? Which do you believe then? https://twitter.com/kristennetten/status/1438586256363966466?s=21 https://twitter.com/kristennetten/status/1438586256363966466...
        clouddrover 5y ago
        It doesn't say 110 kWh. It says greater than 110 kWh. You're just irrationally repeating yourself at this point. It says greater than 900 volts. Do you believe that means it's an 1800 volt pack? It says greater than 750 kW output. Do you believe that means it has a 1500 kW output? Do you understand the difference between net and gross battery capacity? Here's an explainer: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a36051980/evs-explained-battery-capacity-gross-versus-net/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a36051980/evs-explaine... I think you need to spend less time on Twitter. You'll be better for it.
        babesh 5y ago
        Forbes says 118kWh. https://youtu.be/X9VZGkyL6KY https://youtu.be/X9VZGkyL6KY 11:32 Also, people are only considering net for range.

babesh 5y ago

There are people on Twitter looking at the underlying efficiency numbers for highway and city who think it needs higher kWh than that. That link is from 2020 btw. We will probably soon find out.

clouddrover 5y ago
If people on Twitter say so then it must be true.
- babesh 5y ago
  These aren't random people. These are prominent people in the Tesla community. Don't be so condescending and arrogant. More specifically Rob Maurer and Omar Qazi were looking into it. Here is Omar Qazi's speculation based on the numbers of 140kWh. https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1438585974015987724 https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1438585974015987724 Here is Rob Maurer's speculation that it is actually about 129kWh instead. https://twitter.com/TeslaPodcast/status/1438596012281630720 https://twitter.com/TeslaPodcast/status/1438596012281630720
  - clouddrover 5y ago
    You mean people in the Tesla community who are trying to rationalize to themselves why Teslas don't drive as far? It isn't condescension or arrogance. It's simply practicality.
    - babesh 5y ago
      Really? Here is what Lucid Motors tweeted today. https://twitter.com/lucidmotors/status/1438615868183744519?s=21 https://twitter.com/lucidmotors/status/1438615868183744519?s... All they say is > 110kWh
      - clouddrover 5y ago
        So you mean just like how 113 kWh is greater than 110 kWh? No way, man.
        babesh 5y ago
        Just like 114 is greater than 110. Just like 200 is greater than 110. Just like 110.1 is greater than 110. Basic logic and basic math. 13. Guess a number greater than than 10. Must be 13. See I told you so. Hahahahaha. If you so believe it is 113, what happens if I share the link of a Lucid battery that says 110? Which do you believe then? https://twitter.com/kristennetten/status/1438586256363966466?s=21 https://twitter.com/kristennetten/status/1438586256363966466...
        clouddrover 5y ago
        It doesn't say 110 kWh. It says greater than 110 kWh. You're just irrationally repeating yourself at this point. It says greater than 900 volts. Do you believe that means it's an 1800 volt pack? It says greater than 750 kW output. Do you believe that means it has a 1500 kW output? Do you understand the difference between net and gross battery capacity? Here's an explainer: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a36051980/evs-explained-battery-capacity-gross-versus-net/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a36051980/evs-explaine... I think you need to spend less time on Twitter. You'll be better for it.
        babesh 5y ago
        Forbes says 118kWh. https://youtu.be/X9VZGkyL6KY https://youtu.be/X9VZGkyL6KY 11:32 Also, people are only considering net for range.