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You don't have a right to service from a private company. Why are people so surprised and or angered by this? The law is clear: you can be denied service as lo

You don't have a right to service from a private company. Why are people so surprised and or angered by this? The law is clear: you can be denied service as long as the reason you are being denied is not your sex, religion, etc. [Protected classes]. If you go to a restaurant and they don't like you they can throw you out, and so can a hardware store, and a movie theater, etc. (Exempting the protected reasons). Find another service. This makes sense. Why should a company be forced to allow people on their property? Or use their property? They shouldn't be forced, as long as they're not discriminating.

reginold 5y ago
People are surprised and or angered by this because they aren't as clear on the law as you are. It's understandable, and they need help to better understand how it works. With that in mind, got any other services that would be replacements?
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
  Note that even if there are no replacements, a private business can still refuse to provide you with service. It could be the only restaurant in town, and the next town might be 85 miles away and you might not have a car. Under US law, that's your problem, not the restaurant's.
- djoldman 5y ago
  You're right and I posted in frustration :( Other services... Well I think you can still view YouTube without an account. As for publishing, Vimeo?
  - reginold 5y ago
    It happens to me as well, appreciate your thoughtfulness. Vimeo is still the same deal - same weaknesses as YouTube, just less popular.
- RIMR 5y ago
  Why do people always ask "What other privately owned service I don't have control over can I use?" instead of asking "How can I make my own platform that I have control over?". Peertube, off the top of my head, would be the exact tool for the job.
  - reginold 5y ago
    Most interested in open source, decentralized, self hosted. Thread here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28558599 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28558599 Come join!
CheezeIt 5y ago
> Why are people so surprised and or angered by this? People have self respect and don’t like being bossed around by nitwits and parasites in mega corporations.
Asooka 5y ago
Those rules were written when you could find another service. Nowadays communication platforms are too centralised to be allowed to remove content at will. The other issue here is the person was banned for life from using YouTube, which is a far cry beyond having some of his content removed for not fitting the platform. With great power comes great responsibility. The banhammer is being wielded too sloppily and that is hurting people in real ways, because parts of the web are now of central importance to daily life. Private companies in other sectors that can similarly impact people's lives are regulated in what they can do to their customers.
thomasahle 5y ago
Whenever people make "the new decentralized YouTube" or whatever, everyone cuts them down and say "nobody wants that, they just want an easy centralized service with everything". At some point we have to accept that's what we've gotten in nearly every field: 2-3 monolite providers that control the market. If people want that, then fine, but they can't then be regulated as if we had a vibrant decentralized market. We need democratic control and certain guarantees rights.

reginold 5y ago

People are surprised and or angered by this because they aren't as clear on the law as you are. It's understandable, and they need help to better understand how it works. With that in mind, got any other services that would be replacements?

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
Note that even if there are no replacements, a private business can still refuse to provide you with service. It could be the only restaurant in town, and the next town might be 85 miles away and you might not have a car. Under US law, that's your problem, not the restaurant's.
djoldman 5y ago
You're right and I posted in frustration :( Other services... Well I think you can still view YouTube without an account. As for publishing, Vimeo?
- reginold 5y ago
  It happens to me as well, appreciate your thoughtfulness. Vimeo is still the same deal - same weaknesses as YouTube, just less popular.
RIMR 5y ago
Why do people always ask "What other privately owned service I don't have control over can I use?" instead of asking "How can I make my own platform that I have control over?". Peertube, off the top of my head, would be the exact tool for the job.
- reginold 5y ago
  Most interested in open source, decentralized, self hosted. Thread here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28558599 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28558599 Come join!

CheezeIt 5y ago

> Why are people so surprised and or angered by this? People have self respect and don’t like being bossed around by nitwits and parasites in mega corporations.

Asooka 5y ago

Those rules were written when you could find another service. Nowadays communication platforms are too centralised to be allowed to remove content at will. The other issue here is the person was banned for life from using YouTube, which is a far cry beyond having some of his content removed for not fitting the platform. With great power comes great responsibility. The banhammer is being wielded too sloppily and that is hurting people in real ways, because parts of the web are now of central importance to daily life. Private companies in other sectors that can similarly impact people's lives are regulated in what they can do to their customers.

thomasahle 5y ago

Whenever people make "the new decentralized YouTube" or whatever, everyone cuts them down and say "nobody wants that, they just want an easy centralized service with everything". At some point we have to accept that's what we've gotten in nearly every field: 2-3 monolite providers that control the market. If people want that, then fine, but they can't then be regulated as if we had a vibrant decentralized market. We need democratic control and certain guarantees rights.