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> The paradox of tolerance is that the one group of people we can’t welcome are those who make others feel unwelcome. I really hope Google takes a strong stanc

> The paradox of tolerance is that the one group of people we can’t welcome are those who make others feel unwelcome. I really hope Google takes a strong stance and bans Muslim from all projects due to their views on homosexuality. While a minority of Muslims might not personally have an issue with homosexuality I don't think it's fair to ask people to tolerate members of such an intolerant religion.

envp 5y ago
There are so many things wrong with your comment, I don't even know where to begin. I can trivially extend your argument to: > I really hope Google takes a strong stance and bans _humans_ from all projects due to their _bigotry_. While a minority of _humans_ might not personally display any _bigotry_ I don't think it's fair to tolerate members of such an intolerant group.
- Nicksil 5y ago
  >There are so many things wrong with your comment, I don't even know where to begin. We can trivially extend your argument to: >I really hope Google takes a strong stance and bans humans from all projects due to their bigotry. While a minority of humans might not personally display any bigotry I don't think it's fair to ask people to tolerate members of such an intolerant group. I suspect that was the reason for their comment in the first place. More of a demonstration. Your reaction, however, is a great example of just how much nuance is lost in the medium and how easily it can be for someone to be labeled offensive when in-fact the intention behind the statement was anything but.
- tick_tock_tick 5y ago
  Yes, exactly! This is the point I was trying to make and you've even added the follow up on the logical conclusion of these Code of Conducts. Thank you.
  - envp 5y ago
    Ah! I'm glad my density was useful for once. Regardless, lesson learned.
- dilap 5y ago
  I mean, that's basically what happened to Brendan Eich. And now Mozilla is headed towards irrelevence, Firefox is in sharp decline, and Amazon is in danger of taking over Rust. Call it the paradox of the paradox of intolerance -- intolerance can be laundered in under the umbrella of not tolerating intolerance.
- HowTheStoryEnds 5y ago
  That's a good idea since humans are indeed awful: if something truly morally bankrupt happens you can always trace it back to one of them. Ceterum censeo, delenda est homo.
TheCoelacanth 5y ago
I really hope Google bans people based on their conduct and not based on lazy generalizations about their race or religion.
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envp 5y ago

There are so many things wrong with your comment, I don't even know where to begin. I can trivially extend your argument to: > I really hope Google takes a strong stance and bans _humans_ from all projects due to their _bigotry_. While a minority of _humans_ might not personally display any _bigotry_ I don't think it's fair to tolerate members of such an intolerant group.

Nicksil 5y ago
>There are so many things wrong with your comment, I don't even know where to begin. We can trivially extend your argument to: >I really hope Google takes a strong stance and bans humans from all projects due to their bigotry. While a minority of humans might not personally display any bigotry I don't think it's fair to ask people to tolerate members of such an intolerant group. I suspect that was the reason for their comment in the first place. More of a demonstration. Your reaction, however, is a great example of just how much nuance is lost in the medium and how easily it can be for someone to be labeled offensive when in-fact the intention behind the statement was anything but.
tick_tock_tick 5y ago
Yes, exactly! This is the point I was trying to make and you've even added the follow up on the logical conclusion of these Code of Conducts. Thank you.
- envp 5y ago
  Ah! I'm glad my density was useful for once. Regardless, lesson learned.
dilap 5y ago
I mean, that's basically what happened to Brendan Eich. And now Mozilla is headed towards irrelevence, Firefox is in sharp decline, and Amazon is in danger of taking over Rust. Call it the paradox of the paradox of intolerance -- intolerance can be laundered in under the umbrella of not tolerating intolerance.
HowTheStoryEnds 5y ago
That's a good idea since humans are indeed awful: if something truly morally bankrupt happens you can always trace it back to one of them. Ceterum censeo, delenda est homo.

TheCoelacanth 5y ago

I really hope Google bans people based on their conduct and not based on lazy generalizations about their race or religion.

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