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I'm reluctant purely on the basis of MS's track record of every second version since Win '98 being crap: Win 98: good Win ME: bad Win XP: good Win Vista: ba

I'm reluctant purely on the basis of MS's track record of every second version since Win '98 being crap: Win 98: good Win ME: bad Win XP: good Win Vista: bad Win 7: good Win 8: bad Win 9... well, #8 was so bad they had to skip a number Win 10: good Win 11: I'm not optimistic. 20+ years predict for badness. I'll wait until either 1) proven wrong or 2) Win 10 is EOL'ed. I just upgraded, but if I need a new system & it comes with Win 11 then I'll just wipe it out and install 10.

gruez 5y ago
What about windows 2000, which was also considered "good"? As for windows 10 being good, I'm not so sure. It might be good now, but it was also panned on release and received 12 major updates.
- ineedasername 5y ago
  Windows 2000 was not a consumer edition of Windows. I also didn't list server versions either. Up until Vista I don't recall any truly awful NT versions. As for 10, I liked 7 more. But 10 was still and improvement over 8, so I think the pattern still holds.
max46 5y ago
>Win 8: bad >Win 9... well, #8 was so bad they had to skip a number If you know what to install to replace the stupid touchscreen interface with a proper start menu (eg. Stardock Start8) and disable metro ui feature, it's a great OS. You get 3/4 of the modern features of Windows 10 without the downsides (eg. telemetry, no control on updates, keyboard layout management, taskbar freezing, etc.) and an interface that's halfway between 7 and 10. If you don't replace the start menu, I agree it's a dumpster fire and I would never use it.
- ineedasername 5y ago
  I'll agree that, especially with 8.1 and some tweeks, things were much better. But I think the out-of-the-box experience-- what most consumers will be stuck with-- is a better comparison. Because you can change just about anything if you're willing to use 3rd party tools or dig into buried settings, and especially if you're willing to dig around the registry.
spartanatreyu 5y ago
I see it more as: Win 7: good Win 8: bad Win 8.1: good Win 10: bad (there were early issues) Win 10 later: good (they were fixed) Win 10 even later: bad (remember when people's files were being deleted) Win 10 now: good Win 11: bad (mainly due to growing pains) Win 11 soon: good

gruez 5y ago

What about windows 2000, which was also considered "good"? As for windows 10 being good, I'm not so sure. It might be good now, but it was also panned on release and received 12 major updates.

ineedasername 5y ago
Windows 2000 was not a consumer edition of Windows. I also didn't list server versions either. Up until Vista I don't recall any truly awful NT versions. As for 10, I liked 7 more. But 10 was still and improvement over 8, so I think the pattern still holds.

max46 5y ago

>Win 8: bad >Win 9... well, #8 was so bad they had to skip a number If you know what to install to replace the stupid touchscreen interface with a proper start menu (eg. Stardock Start8) and disable metro ui feature, it's a great OS. You get 3/4 of the modern features of Windows 10 without the downsides (eg. telemetry, no control on updates, keyboard layout management, taskbar freezing, etc.) and an interface that's halfway between 7 and 10. If you don't replace the start menu, I agree it's a dumpster fire and I would never use it.

ineedasername 5y ago
I'll agree that, especially with 8.1 and some tweeks, things were much better. But I think the out-of-the-box experience-- what most consumers will be stuck with-- is a better comparison. Because you can change just about anything if you're willing to use 3rd party tools or dig into buried settings, and especially if you're willing to dig around the registry.

spartanatreyu 5y ago

I see it more as: Win 7: good Win 8: bad Win 8.1: good Win 10: bad (there were early issues) Win 10 later: good (they were fixed) Win 10 even later: bad (remember when people's files were being deleted) Win 10 now: good Win 11: bad (mainly due to growing pains) Win 11 soon: good