Ehat you are saying is not correct. You are missing that growing in permanent debt has consequences. Some countries have been ruined by external debt. We are o

Ehat you are saying is not correct. You are missing that growing in permanent debt has consequences. Some countries have been ruined by external debt. We are on our way. We people do not manage wealth like that. A call for poverty is to live over our real outcome permanently (this does not mean we cannot invest and have debt as long as we are able to pay and as long as it has expected return in controlled ways). Eventually you go bankrupt. What is being poorer than not being able to finance your basic services? And yes, I admit to hsve become somewhat antistate. Because it is a scam, basically, to monopolize services, offer them more expensive, without the innovations that markets could provide you mich faster and on the way saying you are ok thanks to them and that you owe the state everything. I can deal with market prices and free choice and save a bunch of money, which is MY invested effort, so it is me who should manage it. States do not give me anything except poor justifications for their existence. The only exceptions could be (and I am not convinced either) security and justice. I really think they are way more correct than the alternative: that we must be forced in groups under the decisions of ellites. This is not morally right. And, BTW, a higher goal for the sake of others under coaction lead to fascisms and communism. Little by little we lose our freedom. Not a good thing.