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Yeah the whole "censoring" stuff ratcheted up really fast. Kinda crazy.

by reginold 5y ago

Animats 5y ago
It's scary. Imagine the US five years from now, with Team Trump in charge of the censoring.
- reginold 5y ago
  Banning Trump from Twitter...the pendulum will indeed swing the other way. How long do we have. The clock is ticking on open source, decentralized solutions. Nothing else is relevant.
hnisfullofshit 5y ago
HackerNews is notorious for censoring anything that falls outside its groupthink or threatens a portfolio company. It's actually one of the more aggressive censors on the internet. Case in point from this very thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28558254 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28558254 There is no free speech here.
- reginold 5y ago
  Curious to hear more about this. Is censorship "removal" or simply not getting votes? I've seen this concept generally addressed here before as "we don't censor, people just vote this way"
  - hnisfullofshit 5y ago
    It was flagged by a mod.
    - detaro 5y ago
      flagging is something normal users can do.
      - deleted 5y ago
        [deleted]
    - PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
      and no longer is.
      - hncircus 5y ago
        Because the bare-face hypocrisy of censoring a comment like that on a thread about commenting pulled back a bit too much of the curtain. They'll be back to silently killing accounts and comments in no time.
- Sebb767 5y ago
  HN is not overly censoring, but it [0] is very disapproving of overly divisive and flaming content. Also, HN is not one person. And the comment you linked is not even negative at the moment. [0] In this case, both community and moderators.
  - hncircus 5y ago
    HN leaves up all kinds of divisive content, as long as it's in their financial interest or aligned with the ideologies of the site owners and moderators. "Very disapproving", you mean they censor. They censor content they don't approve of. It's wild that so many people will defend that position here.
- dang 5y ago
  The comment was obviously trollish. Please stop creating accounts to break HN's rules with. "Portfolio company" has nothing to do with how we moderate HN, except that we moderate less in such cases. Explained many times over the years: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20moderate%20less%20%22not%20more%22%20yc&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

Yeah the whole "censoring" stuff ratcheted up really fast. Kinda crazy.

Animats 5y ago

It's scary. Imagine the US five years from now, with Team Trump in charge of the censoring.

reginold 5y ago
Banning Trump from Twitter...the pendulum will indeed swing the other way. How long do we have. The clock is ticking on open source, decentralized solutions. Nothing else is relevant.

hnisfullofshit 5y ago

HackerNews is notorious for censoring anything that falls outside its groupthink or threatens a portfolio company. It's actually one of the more aggressive censors on the internet. Case in point from this very thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28558254 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28558254 There is no free speech here.

reginold 5y ago
Curious to hear more about this. Is censorship "removal" or simply not getting votes? I've seen this concept generally addressed here before as "we don't censor, people just vote this way"
- hnisfullofshit 5y ago
  It was flagged by a mod.
  - detaro 5y ago
    flagging is something normal users can do.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
  - PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
    and no longer is.
    - hncircus 5y ago
      Because the bare-face hypocrisy of censoring a comment like that on a thread about commenting pulled back a bit too much of the curtain. They'll be back to silently killing accounts and comments in no time.
Sebb767 5y ago
HN is not overly censoring, but it [0] is very disapproving of overly divisive and flaming content. Also, HN is not one person. And the comment you linked is not even negative at the moment. [0] In this case, both community and moderators.
- hncircus 5y ago
  HN leaves up all kinds of divisive content, as long as it's in their financial interest or aligned with the ideologies of the site owners and moderators. "Very disapproving", you mean they censor. They censor content they don't approve of. It's wild that so many people will defend that position here.
dang 5y ago
The comment was obviously trollish. Please stop creating accounts to break HN's rules with. "Portfolio company" has nothing to do with how we moderate HN, except that we moderate less in such cases. Explained many times over the years: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20moderate%20less%20%22not%20more%22%20yc&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....