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Keep in mind managers often make or break your experience. The article could be about OP’s manager as much as it could be Atlassian. Companies that don’t provi

Keep in mind managers often make or break your experience. The article could be about OP’s manager as much as it could be Atlassian. Companies that don’t provide any training and structure with how managers handle engineers end up with employees having wildly different experiences. So, I would find Atlassian at fault here

ununoctium87 5y ago
Atlassian provides very thorough and structured training before anyone is allowed on the management ladder
- anunnymouse 5y ago
  Oh, you again.
x0x0 5y ago
Atlassian is ultimately responsible for the experience of all employees. That said, this employee seems to have long running grievances with his or her managers that predate the cancer diagnosis. Somewhere in there was a team switch (see the complaint about new techs / can't go back to the previous team.) So this spanned multiple managers. As near as I can infer: the central complaint is Atlassian didn't offer longterm paid leave to deal with the cancer treatment, this employee didn't want to use unpaid leave, and Atlassian expected him or her to either work or go on unpaid leave. It's hard to tell. This post and many of the details about it leaves me suspecting the relevant managers at Atlassian would tell a very different story.
tiew9Vii 5y ago
Agree, direct managers, make or break all the difference. Ex Atlassian. Worked on a good team. We were told we were seen as "high performance". I had positive reviews, was told I was, without doubt, the star/person who made the team, received a performance bonus when issued etc. I had a great two years, and then the business wanted to change some stuff, new CTO making his mark, ban some languages we had been using for two years that enabled us to be high performance and instead work more like the CTO's ex company, Gumtree which while large are non-descript. The team wasn't happy. The team was systematically watered down/broken up/moved elsewhere/members were replaced to align with the CTO's opinions. My manager, who had been good for the past two years, an evangelist for what we were doing and encouraging it, did a complete 360. What he was previously evangelizing for, he was actively hunting out, trying to crush and punish. Chat messages were being watched and then used against people in one and ones for criticizing specific code, nothing that looks out the ordinary on a dev chat room. A colleague and I talked outside work and later found we were being played against each other in a he said / she said. The same colleague got put on performance management for writing to many Lambdas in Java as we cannot be seen to be using the word Function anymore. My colleague resigned. On his last day, I was pulled into an office with some historic tweets on Twitter. Someone had actively searched me out on the internet, found some stuff to use against me, and I had my resignation on the table ready to sign. It gave me a bit of gardening leave just enough for some stock to vest as a severance package i guess. The manager who only a few months earlier who had nothing but praise and actively encouraging my/my teams work had now gone online, typed my name into Google to see what they could find. They found some messages, admittedly silly for me to post but nothing terrible, and used them against me to get rid of me for doing what he was an advocate for before the new CTO tried to make his mark. Worst sprint-review I'd ever been in, a team of 5-6 people, calling out issues with a pr, heads on desks because the manager says we have to merge a rewrite by another team. All devs were silent as they had already said everything, and the manager just pressed merge and said: "done". The specific manager was very career-driven, and the best thing for his career was to follow CTO direction. Rather than bat for his team, he systematically rebuilt it and turned on people to move them on. Glassdoor reviews around the time I left by other people where not great either. It's very culty, you are either in the cult or not.
- archon810 5y ago
  "a complete 360" 180*
  - heytherewhat 5y ago
    Why did they call it the Xbox 360? Because when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away.
    - hollerith 5y ago
      If you turn 360 degrees, you end up facing the same direction you were in before the turn. A U-turn is a 180, not a 360. That is why in great grandparent, "did a complete 360," does not mean what the writer thinks it means.
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ununoctium87 5y ago

Atlassian provides very thorough and structured training before anyone is allowed on the management ladder

anunnymouse 5y ago
Oh, you again.

x0x0 5y ago

Atlassian is ultimately responsible for the experience of all employees. That said, this employee seems to have long running grievances with his or her managers that predate the cancer diagnosis. Somewhere in there was a team switch (see the complaint about new techs / can't go back to the previous team.) So this spanned multiple managers. As near as I can infer: the central complaint is Atlassian didn't offer longterm paid leave to deal with the cancer treatment, this employee didn't want to use unpaid leave, and Atlassian expected him or her to either work or go on unpaid leave. It's hard to tell. This post and many of the details about it leaves me suspecting the relevant managers at Atlassian would tell a very different story.

tiew9Vii 5y ago

Agree, direct managers, make or break all the difference. Ex Atlassian. Worked on a good team. We were told we were seen as "high performance". I had positive reviews, was told I was, without doubt, the star/person who made the team, received a performance bonus when issued etc. I had a great two years, and then the business wanted to change some stuff, new CTO making his mark, ban some languages we had been using for two years that enabled us to be high performance and instead work more like the CTO's ex company, Gumtree which while large are non-descript. The team wasn't happy. The team was systematically watered down/broken up/moved elsewhere/members were replaced to align with the CTO's opinions. My manager, who had been good for the past two years, an evangelist for what we were doing and encouraging it, did a complete 360. What he was previously evangelizing for, he was actively hunting out, trying to crush and punish. Chat messages were being watched and then used against people in one and ones for criticizing specific code, nothing that looks out the ordinary on a dev chat room. A colleague and I talked outside work and later found we were being played against each other in a he said / she said. The same colleague got put on performance management for writing to many Lambdas in Java as we cannot be seen to be using the word Function anymore. My colleague resigned. On his last day, I was pulled into an office with some historic tweets on Twitter. Someone had actively searched me out on the internet, found some stuff to use against me, and I had my resignation on the table ready to sign. It gave me a bit of gardening leave just enough for some stock to vest as a severance package i guess. The manager who only a few months earlier who had nothing but praise and actively encouraging my/my teams work had now gone online, typed my name into Google to see what they could find. They found some messages, admittedly silly for me to post but nothing terrible, and used them against me to get rid of me for doing what he was an advocate for before the new CTO tried to make his mark. Worst sprint-review I'd ever been in, a team of 5-6 people, calling out issues with a pr, heads on desks because the manager says we have to merge a rewrite by another team. All devs were silent as they had already said everything, and the manager just pressed merge and said: "done". The specific manager was very career-driven, and the best thing for his career was to follow CTO direction. Rather than bat for his team, he systematically rebuilt it and turned on people to move them on. Glassdoor reviews around the time I left by other people where not great either. It's very culty, you are either in the cult or not.

archon810 5y ago
"a complete 360" 180*
- heytherewhat 5y ago
  Why did they call it the Xbox 360? Because when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away.
  - hollerith 5y ago
    If you turn 360 degrees, you end up facing the same direction you were in before the turn. A U-turn is a 180, not a 360. That is why in great grandparent, "did a complete 360," does not mean what the writer thinks it means.
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