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Still, one of the first signs of a society approaching tyranny is the government cracking down on guns. So if nothing else, it serves as a great canary in the m

by clon 5y ago

Still, one of the first signs of a society approaching tyranny is the government cracking down on guns. So if nothing else, it serves as a great canary in the mine.

sofixa 5y ago
> Still, one of the first signs of a society approaching tyranny is the government cracking down on guns In a dictatorship, yes.
- beerandt 5y ago
  Australia?
  - SuoDuanDao 5y ago
    Do Australians have Freedom of Movement back yet?
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  Exactly how do you think you wind up in a dictatorship?
watwut 5y ago
That is not actually true historically. That is popular talking point. On the other hand, quite a few authoritarian tyrannical movements started by arming themselves and taking it on themselves to get power. Both nazi and communists started as private citizens arming themselves and causing fights in the streets or robbing people.
- clon 5y ago
  One example close from home, Belarus and Russian governments have gone to lengths in order to limit gun ownership. It is actually very difficult, at least legally. Perhaps when you are trying to stir a revolution you might speak to the nation arming itself. Once you have taken power, peacefully or otherwise, your next steps regarding gun control are still highly illuminating.
- jdkee 5y ago
  Partially true. "On Nov. 11, 1938, the German minister of the interior issued "Regulations Against Jews Possession of Weapons." Not only were Jews forbidden to own guns and ammunition, they couldn’t own "truncheons or stabbing weapons." In addition to the restrictions, Ellerbrock said the Nazis had already been raiding Jewish homes and seizing weapons. "The gun policy of the Nazis can hardly be compared to the democratic procedures of gun regulations by law," Ellerbrock told us. "It was a kind of special administrative practice (Sonderrecht), which treated people in different ways according to their political opinion or according to ‘racial identity’ in Nazi terms.""[0]. [0] https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/oct/26/ben-carson/fact-checking-ben-carson-nazi-guns/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/oct/26/ben-carson...
  - inter_netuser 5y ago
    Amusingly, Einstein's home got raided and they confiscated a kitchen knife or something.
Hamuko 5y ago
Australia doesn't seem that tyrannical to me.
- jaywalk 5y ago
  Haven't really been paying attention to the news out of Australia over the past year and a half, have you?
- inter_netuser 5y ago
  Have you not heard of Gladys? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTGXblgUoc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTGXblgUoc

by clon 5y ago

Still, one of the first signs of a society approaching tyranny is the government cracking down on guns. So if nothing else, it serves as a great canary in the mine.

sofixa 5y ago

> Still, one of the first signs of a society approaching tyranny is the government cracking down on guns In a dictatorship, yes.

beerandt 5y ago
Australia?
- SuoDuanDao 5y ago
  Do Australians have Freedom of Movement back yet?
betwixthewires 5y ago
Exactly how do you think you wind up in a dictatorship?

watwut 5y ago

That is not actually true historically. That is popular talking point. On the other hand, quite a few authoritarian tyrannical movements started by arming themselves and taking it on themselves to get power. Both nazi and communists started as private citizens arming themselves and causing fights in the streets or robbing people.

clon 5y ago
One example close from home, Belarus and Russian governments have gone to lengths in order to limit gun ownership. It is actually very difficult, at least legally. Perhaps when you are trying to stir a revolution you might speak to the nation arming itself. Once you have taken power, peacefully or otherwise, your next steps regarding gun control are still highly illuminating.
jdkee 5y ago
Partially true. "On Nov. 11, 1938, the German minister of the interior issued "Regulations Against Jews Possession of Weapons." Not only were Jews forbidden to own guns and ammunition, they couldn’t own "truncheons or stabbing weapons." In addition to the restrictions, Ellerbrock said the Nazis had already been raiding Jewish homes and seizing weapons. "The gun policy of the Nazis can hardly be compared to the democratic procedures of gun regulations by law," Ellerbrock told us. "It was a kind of special administrative practice (Sonderrecht), which treated people in different ways according to their political opinion or according to ‘racial identity’ in Nazi terms.""[0]. [0] https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/oct/26/ben-carson/fact-checking-ben-carson-nazi-guns/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/oct/26/ben-carson...
- inter_netuser 5y ago
  Amusingly, Einstein's home got raided and they confiscated a kitchen knife or something.

Hamuko 5y ago

Australia doesn't seem that tyrannical to me.

jaywalk 5y ago
Haven't really been paying attention to the news out of Australia over the past year and a half, have you?
inter_netuser 5y ago
Have you not heard of Gladys? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTGXblgUoc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTGXblgUoc