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Making people feel like targets will persuade them to give up self-defense?

igetspam 5y ago
No, which is an interesting take. No major political party is trying to abolish the 2nd amendment. None. Reasonable limits on firearms and access to firearms is not going to take away your right to self defense. It could keep more guns out of the hands of felons by requiring federal background checks on private sales. Buy that's crazy, right? I should be able to sell my Super Redhawk to the drunk across the street without anyone knowing about it! Sure, I've seen him hit his wife but he was angry and drunk. He's normally a cool guy. (For the readers: that's a 40 cal revolver that suuuuuucks to shoot and the drunk across the street is a real person, with a bunch of guns, who would like to buy it from me)
- giantg2 5y ago
  "Reasonable limits on firearms and access to firearms is not going to take away your right to self defense." It depends on what one sees as reasonable. One might reasonably believe that the requirements for private sale background checks might not make an impact because there's no monitoring or effective enforcement mechanisms in the suggested system. When we use qualifiers like reasonable or common sense, it's an attack on the other side and creates a divide between the debating parties. People should be debating the the proposed solutions and the objections to them.
- a_conservative 5y ago
  I didn't say you wanted to abolish the 2nd amendment. Your now flagged post stated making people feel vulnerable will lead to more regulation. Or that's what you hoped would happen. People make choices about how they will respond to feeling vulnerable. Some people rely more on authority, for example, wanting more gun regulations. Some people will opt to go get a carry permit or purchase a weapon to protect themselves. My point is that you are hoping that people who have already chosen the self-protection strategy will switch to the authority strategy for dealing with vulnerability. This might happen in a few rare cases, but it seems like you don't understand gun culture or conservatives in general.

No, which is an interesting take. No major political party is trying to abolish the 2nd amendment. None. Reasonable limits on firearms and access to firearms is not going to take away your right to self defense. It could keep more guns out of the hands of felons by requiring federal background checks on private sales. Buy that's crazy, right? I should be able to sell my Super Redhawk to the drunk across the street without anyone knowing about it! Sure, I've seen him hit his wife but he was angry and drunk. He's normally a cool guy. (For the readers: that's a 40 cal revolver that suuuuuucks to shoot and the drunk across the street is a real person, with a bunch of guns, who would like to buy it from me)

giantg2 5y ago
"Reasonable limits on firearms and access to firearms is not going to take away your right to self defense." It depends on what one sees as reasonable. One might reasonably believe that the requirements for private sale background checks might not make an impact because there's no monitoring or effective enforcement mechanisms in the suggested system. When we use qualifiers like reasonable or common sense, it's an attack on the other side and creates a divide between the debating parties. People should be debating the the proposed solutions and the objections to them.
a_conservative 5y ago
I didn't say you wanted to abolish the 2nd amendment. Your now flagged post stated making people feel vulnerable will lead to more regulation. Or that's what you hoped would happen. People make choices about how they will respond to feeling vulnerable. Some people rely more on authority, for example, wanting more gun regulations. Some people will opt to go get a carry permit or purchase a weapon to protect themselves. My point is that you are hoping that people who have already chosen the self-protection strategy will switch to the authority strategy for dealing with vulnerability. This might happen in a few rare cases, but it seems like you don't understand gun culture or conservatives in general.