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I don't get how a pro photo app is supposed to be mobile-only and subscription-gated. One of the greatest things about flickr is that I can embed it almost anyw

by jtth 5y ago

I don't get how a pro photo app is supposed to be mobile-only and subscription-gated. One of the greatest things about flickr is that I can embed it almost anywhere, even hotlinking on my blog or on forums, and anyone, anywhere can see it on any device. (And if I pay, they can see a 6k version, served on the web, not through a download link.) I am really, really into photography but I do not have any interest in viewing image galleries on my phone when I have a 27" iMac 5k and Flickr shows me over a decade of photos collected from every type of photography enthusiast.

mkr-hn 5y ago
I used a few Flickr embeds on my site and it reminded me of all the promise of composability and interoperability in the early web. I miss it.
- Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
  > promise of composability and interoperability in the early web. I miss it. Then avoiding embeds altogether and choosing hyperlinks is the way to go. Came to this realization after having to remove embeds from what was a cool platform to begin with and later turning out to be soul sucking privacy nightmare.
  - mkr-hn 5y ago
    Why would I do that? Flickr embeds still work fine after almost 20 years and did even when Yahoo owned it. They're now owned by a company that sells real, actual things in service to paying customers and has for a long time (older than Flickr), so I don't see any reason they would go the route most widget/embeds did and pile trackers in. Incentives are the key. AdTech took over most things, but this is a rare oasis of that lost web.
    - Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
      My comment was neither specific to Flickr nor whether embeds technically work but on the issue of privacy, security and performance of a website especially since the notion of 'early web' was invoked.
      - mkr-hn 5y ago
        Suggesting someone stop doing what they're doing without regard for need or circumstance is rarely going to be helpful advice.
efraim 5y ago
Not mobile-only, iphone-only. This is a good example of how ios is a seperate market and Apple has the monopoly.
- Jcowell 5y ago
  Still mobile only. The PS4 Spiderman game is Console only even if it’s a PS4 exclusive.
- drusepth 5y ago
  This seems like a good example of how some devs treat ios like a separate market and lose out on a significant portion of the potential user pie.
  - ZephyrBlu 5y ago
    iOS users are likely to be much higher value than Android users.
  - tinus_hn 5y ago
    Perhaps they have a reason to make that decision when it’s their money on the line, like ‘that’s where the people that actually spend money are’. If you want to vote with your feet, buy apps on your platform and spend money through it.
- jdavis703 5y ago
  Android has a larger user base, and it's not like Apple bribes developers to be iOS-only. I'm curious what kind of regulations are needed here. Is the idea that developers should be forced to launch on at least two mobile platforms? If so, that would kind of suck for hobbyist and independent developers who may not have the skills to launch on Android.
  - Bilal_io 5y ago
    It'll be people voting with their money/download. As an example, I will not be using Clubhouse when it launches on Android, they had a long time to launch and took their sweet time.
AnotherGoodName 5y ago
The very second photo on the above link is an example of a shared photo on the glass.photo website? I think the app is required to manage your collection but it appears you can absolutely share links publicly. Eg. https://glass.photo/om/3lyGawR7MzJx2M46BMqpsV https://glass.photo/om/3lyGawR7MzJx2M46BMqpsV ^That worked fine?
- ghego1 5y ago
  And their web sharing link works also without JS, which is quite uncommon for image sharing sites and a very nice find!
clusterfish 5y ago
Maybe the actual target audience is people who think they're pros when they aren't? Sounds about right for both photographers and consumer electronics enthusiasts.

by jtth 5y ago

mkr-hn 5y ago

I used a few Flickr embeds on my site and it reminded me of all the promise of composability and interoperability in the early web. I miss it.

Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
> promise of composability and interoperability in the early web. I miss it. Then avoiding embeds altogether and choosing hyperlinks is the way to go. Came to this realization after having to remove embeds from what was a cool platform to begin with and later turning out to be soul sucking privacy nightmare.
- mkr-hn 5y ago
  Why would I do that? Flickr embeds still work fine after almost 20 years and did even when Yahoo owned it. They're now owned by a company that sells real, actual things in service to paying customers and has for a long time (older than Flickr), so I don't see any reason they would go the route most widget/embeds did and pile trackers in. Incentives are the key. AdTech took over most things, but this is a rare oasis of that lost web.
  - Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
    My comment was neither specific to Flickr nor whether embeds technically work but on the issue of privacy, security and performance of a website especially since the notion of 'early web' was invoked.
    - mkr-hn 5y ago
      Suggesting someone stop doing what they're doing without regard for need or circumstance is rarely going to be helpful advice.

efraim 5y ago

Not mobile-only, iphone-only. This is a good example of how ios is a seperate market and Apple has the monopoly.

Jcowell 5y ago
Still mobile only. The PS4 Spiderman game is Console only even if it’s a PS4 exclusive.
drusepth 5y ago
This seems like a good example of how some devs treat ios like a separate market and lose out on a significant portion of the potential user pie.
- ZephyrBlu 5y ago
  iOS users are likely to be much higher value than Android users.
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  Perhaps they have a reason to make that decision when it’s their money on the line, like ‘that’s where the people that actually spend money are’. If you want to vote with your feet, buy apps on your platform and spend money through it.
jdavis703 5y ago
Android has a larger user base, and it's not like Apple bribes developers to be iOS-only. I'm curious what kind of regulations are needed here. Is the idea that developers should be forced to launch on at least two mobile platforms? If so, that would kind of suck for hobbyist and independent developers who may not have the skills to launch on Android.
- Bilal_io 5y ago
  It'll be people voting with their money/download. As an example, I will not be using Clubhouse when it launches on Android, they had a long time to launch and took their sweet time.

AnotherGoodName 5y ago

The very second photo on the above link is an example of a shared photo on the glass.photo website? I think the app is required to manage your collection but it appears you can absolutely share links publicly. Eg. https://glass.photo/om/3lyGawR7MzJx2M46BMqpsV https://glass.photo/om/3lyGawR7MzJx2M46BMqpsV ^That worked fine?

ghego1 5y ago
And their web sharing link works also without JS, which is quite uncommon for image sharing sites and a very nice find!

clusterfish 5y ago

Maybe the actual target audience is people who think they're pros when they aren't? Sounds about right for both photographers and consumer electronics enthusiasts.