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It must be disheartening to be losing market share after launching WP7. That said, these numbers are a bit deceiving for two reasons: 1) WP7 + Windows Mobile i

It must be disheartening to be losing market share after launching WP7. That said, these numbers are a bit deceiving for two reasons: 1) WP7 + Windows Mobile is probably still growing in absolute numbers, but just being outpaced by Android and iOS growth 2) These numbers only represent consumer devices, not business; from the comScore report: "Data on mobile phone usage refers to a respondent’s primary mobile phone and does not include data related to a respondent’s secondary device.". In particular, many people have iPhone's for personal use and a BlackBerry/Windows phone for business use. edit: formatting

sjs 15y ago
What people actually choose to buy is more interesting to me.
azakai 15y ago
> WP7 + Windows Mobile is probably still growing in absolute numbers, but just being outpaced by Android and iOS growth My guess is that it is shrinking, not growing. The only way to be sure would be to see sales numbers from Microsoft. The fact that Microsoft hides those numbers is telling.
- nigelsampson 15y ago
  I suspect the overall decrease is because the growth of Windows Phone isn't as strong as the decline of Windows Mobile. Overall I think it would have been a good idea if Microsoft had done better in separating the brands. Right now its to confusing for the average user if reporters can't get it right.
- sorbus 15y ago
  > The only way to be sure would be to see sales numbers from Microsoft. The fact that Microsoft hides those numbers is telling. Or we could look at the size of the market at times when we know the percentage of the market they have, which gives us absolute numbers, and then graph those over time.
  - azakai 15y ago
    Good point, here are some market share % along with absolute numbers: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/08/11/apples_ios_and_google_android_swell_to_62_percent_of_smartphone_market.html http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/08/11/apples_ios_and... Calculating from that, Microsoft has plummeted from 3,041M units to 1,724M units. In other words, Microsoft is now shipping almost half the number of phones it was shipping last year. That's much worse than I had imagined. Another datapoint, Bada has doubled in marketshare and now exceeds that of Microsoft.
ja2ke 15y ago
It'll be interesting to see what happens -- from a marketing and consumer communication/perception standpoint when Windows 8 is out on PCs, and the 360 gets its matching OS update as well. It won't be a perfect arrangement, but it'll be Microsoft's first cross-platform alignment to that degree in ages.

sjs 15y ago

What people actually choose to buy is more interesting to me.

azakai 15y ago

> WP7 + Windows Mobile is probably still growing in absolute numbers, but just being outpaced by Android and iOS growth My guess is that it is shrinking, not growing. The only way to be sure would be to see sales numbers from Microsoft. The fact that Microsoft hides those numbers is telling.

nigelsampson 15y ago
I suspect the overall decrease is because the growth of Windows Phone isn't as strong as the decline of Windows Mobile. Overall I think it would have been a good idea if Microsoft had done better in separating the brands. Right now its to confusing for the average user if reporters can't get it right.
sorbus 15y ago
> The only way to be sure would be to see sales numbers from Microsoft. The fact that Microsoft hides those numbers is telling. Or we could look at the size of the market at times when we know the percentage of the market they have, which gives us absolute numbers, and then graph those over time.
- azakai 15y ago
  Good point, here are some market share % along with absolute numbers: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/08/11/apples_ios_and_google_android_swell_to_62_percent_of_smartphone_market.html http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/08/11/apples_ios_and... Calculating from that, Microsoft has plummeted from 3,041M units to 1,724M units. In other words, Microsoft is now shipping almost half the number of phones it was shipping last year. That's much worse than I had imagined. Another datapoint, Bada has doubled in marketshare and now exceeds that of Microsoft.

ja2ke 15y ago

It'll be interesting to see what happens -- from a marketing and consumer communication/perception standpoint when Windows 8 is out on PCs, and the 360 gets its matching OS update as well. It won't be a perfect arrangement, but it'll be Microsoft's first cross-platform alignment to that degree in ages.