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>It did make me wonder about how we could restructure academia/society so that random individuals don't have so much power over other people. It seems like a re

by kongin 5y ago

>It did make me wonder about how we could restructure academia/society so that random individuals don't have so much power over other people. It seems like a recipe for disaster. Never work in a job you're not prepared to quit. The people who talk about their harrowing experiences have had a lot of less harrowing experiences that should have made them quit much earlier if they weren't living in a fairy tale. I saw it first hand when the head of my school, a woman, started berating me for trying to get into a more 'prestigious' program than the one I was in at the time. The whole meeting was so weird I started asking around for career prospects of high energy physics - two months later I dropped out and moved to be a quant and saved myself a wasted 20s.

smt88 5y ago
Wow, this is an awful take. > Never work in a job you're not prepared to quit. Most humans working today can't quit their job without another job already lined up. Some people (like those in the later stages of their PhD) can't quit at all. They would end up losing potentially years of progress. > I saw it first hand when the head of my school, a woman, started berating me for trying to get into a more 'prestigious' program than the one I was in at the time. The whole meeting was so weird I started asking around for career prospects of high energy physics - two months later I dropped out and moved to be a quant and saved myself a wasted 20s. This situation has absolutely nothing to do with what you were responding to. Changing career tracks in your early 20s isn't a big deal if you have fungible skills that are in high demand. Not everyone is in their early 20s or has high-demand skills, and that doesn't mean it's suddenly their fault that they're being abused. Your single anecdote where you were a brave hero who wasn't "living in a fairy tale" doesn't give you some special insight or authority to tell other people they're stupid for trying to push through the early stages of a bad situation. No one knows whether or not it'll get worse or how long it will last. They do know there will be potentially severe financial and career consequences for leaving.
- kongin 5y ago
  >Most humans working today can't quit their job without another job already lined up. Some people (like those in the later stages of their PhD) can't quit at all. They would end up losing potentially years of progress. I was in the later stages of my PhD. It was rather easy once I got over my ego. >This situation has absolutely nothing to do with what you were responding to. Changing career tracks in your early 20s isn't a big deal if you have fungible skills that are in high demand. Not everyone is in their early 20s or has high-demand skills, and that doesn't mean it's suddenly their fault that they're being abused. There are plenty of unskilled jobs you can move to and you'd be no worse off than the 50% of Americans who work in them. >Your single anecdote where you were a brave hero who wasn't "living in a fairy tale" doesn't give you some special insight or authority to tell other people they're stupid for trying to push through the early stages of a bad situation. No one knows whether or not it'll get worse or how long it will last. They do know there will be potentially severe financial and career consequences for leaving. You sound extremely defensive, may I suggest you objectively review your situation?

by kongin 5y ago

smt88 5y ago

Wow, this is an awful take. > Never work in a job you're not prepared to quit. Most humans working today can't quit their job without another job already lined up. Some people (like those in the later stages of their PhD) can't quit at all. They would end up losing potentially years of progress. > I saw it first hand when the head of my school, a woman, started berating me for trying to get into a more 'prestigious' program than the one I was in at the time. The whole meeting was so weird I started asking around for career prospects of high energy physics - two months later I dropped out and moved to be a quant and saved myself a wasted 20s. This situation has absolutely nothing to do with what you were responding to. Changing career tracks in your early 20s isn't a big deal if you have fungible skills that are in high demand. Not everyone is in their early 20s or has high-demand skills, and that doesn't mean it's suddenly their fault that they're being abused. Your single anecdote where you were a brave hero who wasn't "living in a fairy tale" doesn't give you some special insight or authority to tell other people they're stupid for trying to push through the early stages of a bad situation. No one knows whether or not it'll get worse or how long it will last. They do know there will be potentially severe financial and career consequences for leaving.

kongin 5y ago
>Most humans working today can't quit their job without another job already lined up. Some people (like those in the later stages of their PhD) can't quit at all. They would end up losing potentially years of progress. I was in the later stages of my PhD. It was rather easy once I got over my ego. >This situation has absolutely nothing to do with what you were responding to. Changing career tracks in your early 20s isn't a big deal if you have fungible skills that are in high demand. Not everyone is in their early 20s or has high-demand skills, and that doesn't mean it's suddenly their fault that they're being abused. There are plenty of unskilled jobs you can move to and you'd be no worse off than the 50% of Americans who work in them. >Your single anecdote where you were a brave hero who wasn't "living in a fairy tale" doesn't give you some special insight or authority to tell other people they're stupid for trying to push through the early stages of a bad situation. No one knows whether or not it'll get worse or how long it will last. They do know there will be potentially severe financial and career consequences for leaving. You sound extremely defensive, may I suggest you objectively review your situation?